And all of us are none the wiser.Originally Posted by kro
And all of us are none the wiser.Originally Posted by kro
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
So traffic enforcement is unimportant to you... we get your pointless drivel... constantly...again and again...Originally Posted by WINJA
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300 to 400 or more deaths EVERY YEAR not important enough for you?
Speed does kill, so does dangerous driving, so does careless... unsure about not indicating, but sure pisses plenty off... drink drivers don't get a mention I see...![]()
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Hm, that begs the question, though, of how many of those 3-400 could be prevented by any practical level of law enforcement.
Or, indeed, how many of them are actually directly attributable to a discrete breach of the law? I can think of many fatal crashes where no law has been broken. Some are due to incompetance, some to stupidity, some just to sheer bad luck.
Mr WINJA's point, though exaggerated, is a valid one. Personally I also would place burglary at a higher priority than catching 115kph speeders
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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Ive run out of fucks to give
Yeah, quite right,that too. drivers falling asleep causes quite a few crashes.
Originally Posted by skidmark
Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
AFTER UNCLE HELENS SPEEDING MOTORCADE WE ALL KNOW YOU PRICKS ARE FULL OF SHIT , IF I GOT CAUGHT DOING 160KMH AND GOT AWAY FROM YOU GUYS BUT YOU CAUGHT UP WITH ME 2 DAYS LATER I KNOW YOUD TAKE MY LICENCE OFF ME FOR 28 DAYS , BEFORE YOU START LIEING IVE JUST SEEN IT HAPPEN , YET A COUPLE OF PIGS AND A CIVILIAN THAT ARE SPEEDING TO A RUGBY GAME GET EITHER NOTHING OR NEXT TO NOTHING , IF ROAD SAFETY WAS NOT A CROCK OF SHIT ALL THOSE DRIVERS SHOULD OF HAD MANDATORY 28 DAYS LOSS OF LICENCE THEN AN APERANCE IN COURT FOR DANGEROUS WITH A CONVICTION , LETS NOT FORGET THE AMOUNT OF CONCERNED CITIZENS THAT CALLED IN ALONG THE WHOLE ROUTE , IT WAS DANGEROUS DRIVING OF THE WORST KIND YET YOU BITCHES ALL CLOSED RANKS AND DISHED OUT GAY HANDSHAKES ALL ROUND, IF YOU FUCKERS ARE SO DUMB AS NOT TO ASK WHAT THE URGENCY IS THEN YOUR ALL TOO STUPID TO BE ON THE ROADOriginally Posted by Patrick
average man, real average
that's just stupid!!! can't believe you'd waste time doing that. cut both his whole bloody hands off.Originally Posted by winja
Lets NOT turn this into another Police bashing thread by throwing petrol on the fire! No one likes the road toll but as others have pointed out thats NOT the argument. The real argument is wether or not the current practises and policies are effective in reducing the road toll. The second argument is something along the lines of 'so what?'. More people die each year because of lack of appropriate medical treatment of things like prostrate cancer etc and yet not much is said about that.Originally Posted by Patrick
The easy reductions in the road toll have been made and most people think thats reasonable. To get more reductions, better education, better social conditions and a few other things need to be sorted out.
Right on Winj. Right on. And the fuckers had thier convictions overturned.Originally Posted by WINJA
How many here know that??
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
They all had their convictions overturned? thats news to me.Originally Posted by Skyryder
As far as I was aware it was the civilian driver of Helens car and like one of the cops or something....
It would have been much more interesting if they had charged the appropriate people with party to dangerous driving....
Winja before you start ranting off, it does help if you have even a basic knowledge of the law.Originally Posted by WINJA
From memory they were not charged with dangerous speed, but dangerous driving which is a much more serious charge. There is no mandatory suspension with dangerous driving so no, you like the cops would not have had your license suspended for 28 days. And most likely had you just been seen by members of the public travelling at those speeds absolutely nothing would have happened as a result. He doesn't have to lie when your that wrong off the bat now does he.
And if you did not miss it, all the cops did have an appearence in court where they were convicted. No-one closed ranks, they were charged after a Police investigation which kinda makes a mockery of that claim...
They were wrong and paid for it, but your claims are so off base, that even for you they are laughable.
Although according to the P.Ms press secretary there was nothing wrong with that kinda speed because they could have been late to another engagement. Try using that as a defense next time in court...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectid=10339074
AND I CANT DISAGREE WITH YOU INDOO , HELEN SAID SHE WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE CAR WAS SPEEDING BUT MOST OF US CAN TELL WITHOUT LOOKING AT A SPEEDO THAT A CAR IS GOING TO FAST , I BELIEVE SHE ENCOURAGED A DANGEROUS ACT IN A ROUNDABOUT SORT OF WAY AND NEW FULL WELL THAT THEY WERE SPEEDING TO GET HER TO THE GAME , BUT AS POINTED OUT TO ME BY A COP 'THE ONUS IS ON THE DRIVER TO OBEY THE LAW' NOT THAT HELEN DIDNT HELP THEM TO BREAK THE LAW.Originally Posted by Indoo
BUT GET BACK TO BASICS , HOW CAN THOSE SAME COPS HAND OUT TICKETS FOR 110 KMH AND TAKE LICENCES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THEN DRIVE LIKE THEY DID , THOSE COPS AND CIVILIAN DRIVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH SEVERLY IF ANYTHING JUST TO REINFORCE THE SPEEDING/DANGEROUS DRIVING MESSAGE
Originally Posted by Indoo
I THINK YOULL FIND SOME COPS OUT THERE ARE REALLY TAKING THE PISS WITH THIS 28 DAY LOSS OF LICENCE IVE SEEN EVIDENCE OF SOME GROSS INJUSTICES , AS IVE SEEN A FEW TIMES GOING 160KMH IS INSTANT LOSS FOR 28 DAYS EVEN IF YOUR NOT CAUGHT IN A HOT PURSUIT SITUATION FOR INSTANCES DAYS LATER ON YOUR DOORSTEP , AND THATS 160KMH WITH NO OTHER OFFENCES LIKE WHEELSTANDS OR RUNNERS
Yep but that would be if your charged with that offence, not the more serious one of straight dangerous. If the cops had been charged with driving at a dangerous speed then they would have suffered the same penalty, esp being cops.Originally Posted by WINJA
The ironic thing is if they had done wheelys etc rather than just straight speed they would not actually lose there licences instantly, but would lose them for a longer time at a later date when they appeared in court. I think thats the way it works, don't ask me the logic behind it.
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