A licence to exceed 100km/h

[MSTRS:Me]

Good idea in principal. It would fall down in the details. Only realistic scenario is to bump the max. speed for bikes only

[Insanity_rules]

I rode quite a bit in germany and the autobahns work great. Motorcycle accidents were few but usually fatal. Wish we had roads like that here but with our crap tarmac and corners it would be impossible.

[Ixion]

Special Circumstances include the following :

• You are a male
• You are a 15-25 year old male
• wrong time of month - female cop
• nice sunny day and cop stuck in car

15 -25 year old male would be valid.

I think you could list the criteria :

• Poor visibility (or night)
• Heavy traffic
• Wet/poor road surface
• Driver under 25
• Driver breaching licence conditions
• Vehicle defective/no WoF
• Travelling faster than traffic flow
• Learner/restricted licence holder
• Other high risk road users (eg children,animals) present
• Driver has history of offences.

That's 10. So you could make a simple matrix. Takes any "personal" element out of it. Less than 2 hazards present, very unliely to get a ticket. More than 5 present , very likely.

Good clear road, no other traffic, experienced driver good car - no probs.

Pissing with rain, 11pm at night, heavy traffic doing 50kph, and you're dodging in and out of it, in your beat up old Mazda 323 , with your mates, on your restricted , you're 17 years old: and you get a ticket for inappropriate speed for doing 81kph on the open road. Jolly good too.

And, the converse of course as a defence against a ticket for over 120kph. Experienced driver, advanced licence, good car/bike no other traffic, good road and visibility; good defence.

Easy to do. Just reckon up the hazard factors, and make your judgement. Cop can do the same.

Reason I like this approach is it gets away form the "magic number" - where under 100kph you are always "safe", over 100kph is always "dangerous". Makes people (and cops) consider the real safety or danger of a given speed.

EDIT: If you get a ticket the cop has to list on it the hazard factors that he reckons warrant the ticket.

[SPman]

Prima facie 100 k limit - a bit like the LSZ, only faster. They used to have a PF 60mph limit in NSW, way back in the old days - it always seemed more sensible to me. Speed limit a nominal limit but, dependant on circumstances, etc,etc......speeds in excess of the limit deemed acceptable.
Looks like it comes back to that thing - "discretion".......that which is not in a lot of evidence of late.........

[mdb]

For a system like this to be fair, any charge would need to be a percentage of your income!

[Lou Girardin]

I've got one.
It cost me $500 from the Confederation of Northern Tribes.
NZ's true Government.

[Motu]

Did you get a complimentary dog fight ticket with that?

[ghost]

I've got one.
It cost me $500 from the Confederation of Northern Tribes.
NZ's true Government.

Didn't the cheifs later sign the treaty of waitangi, thereby voiding the former confederation?

Anyway, 140kpH licence, accredited driving course, medical, clean licence, over 25, bike / car "wof" every 3 months, different plates for easy ident on the road by enforcement, open road, good conditions only.... blah blah

whats the chances?

[sefer]

You need to be careful around that area, I use to live down Mt Cook and found that while there aren't that many cops (well there are a enough, but it's a huge area to cover), the local coppers are very good at catching you out, even when you know the area quite well

[Kickaha]

The McKenzie Coutry for those that don't know has some pretty long and open straights - a tad boring at 100km/h.

They're not even that exciting at twice that

[Coyote]

It's a good idea, in Theory

Communism is a good idea, in Theory

[Ixion]

It's a good idea, in Theory

Communism is a good idea, in Theory

Communism is a good idea. Done. Welcome, comrade.

[Felicks]

.... just let the speeders go pass me. I think our first priority is to get better roads then perhaps they might look at having areas of higher speed. After all modern cars also find 100kmph slow, its just that our road maintenance is at least a decade behind and needs to catch up.

Just so long as your idea (and those who currently design / implement maintenance changes), doesn't include removing every last corner, chicane sudden rise/drops etc that make current roads fun.

I would hate to think how many nice "bike roads" in NZ have been wrecked by roading gangs straightening them out just so incompetant cage drivers can get from A to B without coming to grief.

Sure those "narly bits" can be a bit hair raising for grannys and someone whose half asleep but at the end of the day, those things make riding on 2 wheels bloody great fun.

If someone ever decides to put a tunnel through the hill to Akaroa - I'll make a point of hunting him/her down personally...

[scumdog]

They're not even that exciting at twice that

Too true - see my earlier post on that subject on this thread.

[scumdog]

Didn't the cheifs later sign the treaty of waitangi, thereby voiding the former confederation?

Anyway, 140kpH licence, accredited driving course, medical, clean licence, over 25, bike / car "wof" every 3 months, different plates for easy ident on the road by enforcement, open road, good conditions only.... blah blah

whats the chances?

Got one of those licences - and get paid to do it!!