justsomeguy should he be booted?

**MSTRS:Me** · 5th May 2006, 09:34

Originally Posted by Smorgen

Karma's a bitch

sure is...

**Ixion** · 5th May 2006, 09:42

Goodness me.Some serious anger here.

For what it may be worth, I agree with Messrs Paul in NZ, Man Down Under, Beyond, et al.

A foolish and thoughtless deed, but one of vanity and silliness, not malice, I think. I note that it was not Mr JustsomeGuy who phoned Mrs Sixpackback, though he ought to have realised the likelihood that smeone would do so.

For various reasons I choose to very seldom go on KB rides. I am aware that there is a long standing problem with mr JustSomeGuys riding on such rides. One of the few KB rides I have been on was the recent "250cc" ride. JSG was along on that, and I paid particular note to the riding of all the other riders. I did not notice any problems with JSGs riding, and I did not hear any complaints about him. There was one rider I had concerns about but it was not JSG. I do not know if there was a reason for the difference in his riding behaviour on that occassion, but I have to say that based on that very small example I have no problems with his riding and would ride with him in the future.

The fake post was simply stupid , thoughtless, inconsiderate and childish.

I wonder if that is the first time that ayone on this site has been stupid thoughtless inconsiderate or childish?

**Paul in NZ** · 5th May 2006, 09:52

Originally Posted by Jim2

SPB in particular.

Now you have gone too far dammit! I'm leaving (again) and taking my pineapple....

Yes folks, what Jim2 said had occured to me as well. If you start acting the lad, don't be amazed when a bigger act knocks you off the stage. Society invented manners to keep us all in check, internet or not, civil behaviour is a darn good idea!

Paul N

**Paul in NZ** · 5th May 2006, 09:54

Originally Posted by Ixion

For various reasons I choose to very seldom go on KB rides.

Hmm.. Perhaps we should not go on a ride together one day? I'm pretty sure we would get along fine!

Vicki and I go on rides together all the time and ever since we ditched the intercom we get along much better.

**WINJA** · 5th May 2006, 10:46

fuck i cant believe it , im trying to be the biggest arsehole and jsg beats me without trying , he prolly could choose a better subject to hoax about like losing a licence or the new zx10 being recalled , it mighta taken things a bit far

**Smorg** · 5th May 2006, 10:52

Originally Posted by WINJA

fuck i cant believe it , im trying to be the biggest arsehole and jsg beats me without trying , he prolly could choose a better subject to hoax about like losing a licence or the new zx10 being recalled , it mighta taken things a bit far

are you feeling ok?

**Hitcher** · 5th May 2006, 11:13

My goodness. I have now read all of the posts associated with this "incident".

My considered opinion is that some of you need to get lives, or learn to become outraged over issues of real substance.

The "crime" here appears to be piss-taking gone too far, and a direct outcome of consistent niggle and abuse provided by a hard core of members at others who they believe worthy of ridicule and derision. JSG has been such a target. He has responded inappropriately, but possibly understandably. Endeavouring to match wits with fucktards can have a lowest-common-denominator effect for the inexperienced amongst us. That is part of what has happened here.

JSG's "apology" is arguably well intentioned, but misdirected. In my opinion, neither SPB or his wife are owed an apology. Any apology would be better directed at other members who have been offended by what was posted. I am somewhat aghast at the mob feeding frenzy of members baying for blood. I mean to say, really. There are also dangers in extrapolating one's own anger and beliefs as a proxy for what you believe others should feel.

Unlike the wild west of other Internet forums, Kiwi Biker is a community of like-minded folk who actually interact in the off-line world. Consequently much of the banter that characterises other forums is entirely inappropriate here. While many of us have on-line "handles", most know who we really are. We need to be appropriately respectful of each other, our differing ages, backgrounds and world views.

Any sin-binning meted out by moderators should be respected by all, and used by people as a cooling-off period. Some of you may never forgive JSG. That is your choice. But be mindful of Jim2's earlier post about sowing and reaping.

**The Stranger:Me** · 5th May 2006, 11:17

Originally Posted by Custard

PLEASE READ QKCHKS THURSDAY NIGHT RIDE AND DRINKS ALL COMMENTS WELCOME FOR SPANKME TO READ

i THINK HE SHOULD BE BOOTED FOR GOOD HE IS TRULY THE BIGGEST WANKER I HAVE MET

Add a poll Custard.

**Hitcher** · 5th May 2006, 11:19

Originally Posted by CaN

Add a poll Custard.

Leave it to the moderators.

**The Stranger:Me** · 5th May 2006, 11:44

Originally Posted by Hitcher

The "crime" here appears to be piss-taking gone too far, and a direct outcome of consistent niggle and abuse provided by a hard core of members at others who they believe worthy of ridicule and derision. JSG has been such a target.

Well Hitcher,
You are a voice of reason.

How would you handle someone whom routinely endangers other riders, and persistently consistently will not listen to reason or advice from some very experienced riders?

No I am NOT talking abuse, a LOT of people have tried hard to help the guy in a calm rational manner. I know you are not here and can not see, but the abuse you see here really is a last resort by many.

**SwanTiger** · 5th May 2006, 11:50

I think some people who are replying to this thread do not understand where the emotion from some people is coming from. Objectivity tells us that JSG made up a story, played us along when questioned and then when people finally knew for themselves the trurth, he admited it too.

However, much of the anger manifests from his later two posts which display his character arrogance about important issues. I cannot see any remorse or otherwise in his "explanation" posts and it just puts emphasis on why people don't like riding with him - his attitude.

Originally Posted by Ixion

JSG on 250cc ride

JSG did not come on the 250cc ride.

Despite personally seeing him come close to being clipped by on coming traffic, strange over taking of vehicles, over taking of myself on the inside around blind right hand corners... not to mention the countless times myself and others have seen him almost crash into other riders... It never worried to the point where I didn't like JSG as a person. However, on each occasion, if something is said to him about an incident you get an attitude back. You just ignore it and move on. Its his life.

But when he directly fucks with someone elses life and we get the attitude. Its hard to ignore and you don't move on as easily. Its someone elses life who you may care about.

And sure it was a piss take, even I figured that one and took his comments with a grain of salt. But he posted afterwards confirming and elaborating on what supposedly happened. It wasn't until MadDuck confirmed he was full of shit that the truth came out (from him atleast).

I don't know what he deserves, but he deserves something.

Violence can be a waste of time, bruises heal within a month. Broken bones 6 - 8 weeks depending. I'm not advocating it, but for some people its their way of communicating.

**Hitcher** · 5th May 2006, 11:52

Originally Posted by CaN

How would you handle someone whom routinely endangers other riders, and persistently consistently will not listen to reason or advice from some very experienced riders?

If he is a danger to others in the off-line world, there are ways of dealing with that in the off-line world. If his behaviour is sufficiently reckless or irresponsible, then the Police should be informed. Refusing to ride with him is another sanction.

"Naming and shaming" on-line may be effective, if the culprit is sufficiently self-aware, but is more likely to lead to abusive exchanges. After all, on-line, we can all ride as well as Valentino Rossi...

**Smorg** · 5th May 2006, 11:59

Originally Posted by Hitcher

After all, on-line, we can all ride as well as Valentino Rossi...

What......its true, well for me anyway

**The Stranger:Me** · 5th May 2006, 12:06

Originally Posted by Hitcher

If he is a danger to others in the off-line world, there are ways of dealing with that in the off-line world. If his behaviour is sufficiently reckless or irresponsible, then the Police should be informed. Refusing to ride with him is another sanction.

"Naming and shaming" on-line may be effective, if the culprit is sufficiently self-aware, but is more likely to lead to abusive exchanges. After all, on-line, we can all ride as well as Valentino Rossi...

Refusing to ride with him is not always practical. It should not be that 6 people wont attend a ride because of one, really it make more sense for the one not to come. Yet he still does, so he gets shit, on line/off line makes no difference. Custard SPB et al give him shit either way.

Ratting to the cops is not going to happen.
No one rats... do they? Surely not.
You are not going to get a bunch of bikers going to the cop shop tittle tattling about another biker. Time, Energy, not to mention the hypocrisy, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Naming and shaming, well this has been happening, he isn't self aware obviously.

Serious question, what next?