Biker fatality on SH16

**Lou Girardin** · 8th May 2006, 10:10

Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat

Finn / Lou or any one else,

A mate was out riding a vfr yesterday and he's not answering calls/emails......

Can you PM me if you have any more specific details on the vfr, eg is it late model, colour, pack rack or any other obvious mods?

Thanks
STR

It was white, with blue and red graphics (I think). Looked like an early model, a bit scruffy.

**Lou Girardin** · 8th May 2006, 10:11

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

You mean Hard "Bore" don't ya...........guess having a Porsche means, by your definition that you are an "Uppie".......bite me!!

What are you on about?

**Wellyman** · 8th May 2006, 10:16

Originally Posted by terbang

Steve (ZRXER) just phoned me from Kaukapakapa, he is riding with the Triumph owners up that way and the road is closed as its sounds like all is not well with another group of motrorcyclists..? Hope you guys are Ok out there..

RIP to rider as well and condolences to family.
this was the one on the news last night wasn't it?
WM

**Lou Girardin** · 8th May 2006, 10:19

Originally Posted by Finn

Yeah it's those bloody auckland yuppies with overpowered litre bikes that can't handle the power and over shoot corners. They're the problem. Not us hard core bikers eh Lou.

Who was that? Couldn't be anyone I know.
I did see someone foot down, fronting it in.

**Grahameeboy** · 8th May 2006, 10:20

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

What are you on about?

Can I have chips with mine...

**Finn** · 8th May 2006, 10:22

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Who was that? Couldn't be anyone I know.
I did see someone foot down, fronting it in.

Must have been that other guy on the Repsol. I would never do something that stupid. He did recover well though, I'll give him that.

**JohnR** · 8th May 2006, 11:46

Bike V bike... head on!

What are the odds on that?:spudwhat:
That area is really popular with bikers ('specially on a nice day) and it sounds like there were lots around.
I don't think "old farts on overpowered motorcylcles" was a factor in this though. For a start I was at work! (I'm glad I work shifts and can ride during the week.)
The two Triumph riders were probably just in the wrong place at the wrong time. However the statistics will still read "three crashed motorcycles, one fatality and two injured."
Unfortunatley this will not only inspire Mr Knackstedt and the NZ Police to dream up some ludicrously draconian legislation, but the insurance companies will also be taking notes.

RIP and condolences to the dead biker and family.
Speedy and complete recovery for the injured.

**Grahameeboy** · 8th May 2006, 12:09

I guess KB is a Community so when there are are fatalities....like is happening lately, we should organise local rides......end up in pub and talk about the ride and discuss what things we did well or not...it would require everyone being 'accepting' but I reckon it would work....

We have Newbie Rides but sounds like us Oldies need reminders too...

**Finn** · 8th May 2006, 12:12

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

I guess KB is a Community so when there are are fatalities....like is happening lately, we should organise local rides......end up in pub and talk about the ride and even what things we did well or not...it would require everyone being 'accepting' but I reckon it would work....

So let me get this straight. We should organise a ride that stops off at a pub, get pissed and talk about what we do wrong, then ride home?

Cool.

**Ixion** · 8th May 2006, 12:14

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

After the court case is finished the information is available to the public unless the judge orders suppression which is highly unlikely on a traffic matter.

Its more someone needs to set up a group that gets the data and court details and starts a programme about it. Its not really something the police deal with more LTNZ or AA.

Why not contact the LTNZ and start up your own database of the crashes and then post them up here or maybe start a website that shows examples of what bikers did wrong and how they could of overcome or prevented it? Its normally $20 a pop for copies of crash reports but im sure if you were getting them to educate bikers they would sort out a good deal. You would have to check with the Courts first as im not to sure what the privacy act's view would be on this.
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Hm. This sounds like it might be an idea to put on the BRONZ agenda. mainly cos it needs some sort of "official" imprimatur, I think. I don't mind putting them into a database and running some analytics, DBA is what I do. $20 a pop could add up though, but maybe ACC would come to the party.

Hm, thanks, interesting possibilitys.

**JohnR** · 8th May 2006, 12:16

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Police dont dream up legislation. Its made by the "legislature" or powers that be.

Police just follow it.

Unfortunatley this will not only inspire Mr Knackstedt to dream up some ludicrously draconian legislation and the NZ Police to have to enforce it, but the insurance companies will also be taking notes.

That better?:slap:

**Ixion** · 8th May 2006, 12:17

Originally Posted by Finn

So let me get this straight. We should organise a ride that stops off at a pub, get pissed and talk about what we do wrong, then ride home?

Cool.

Nah, you got it in the wrong order. It's the guys that have the fatalities that need to do the talking so they can tell us what went wrong.

So, correct order is , we go to the pub, get pissed, then go for a ride, then talk about what we did wrong. Who's got the ouija board ?

**Grahameeboy** · 8th May 2006, 12:24

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Police dont dream up legislation. Its made by the "legislature" or powers that be.

Police just follow it.

Yeah when are some KB's guys gonna realise that the Police just follow legislation....okay I know some will say that some do it badly (just like any job) but 95% of Police do a bloody good job which cannot be easy to do at times....I mean a traffic cop I guess has to show he is doing his job so he may not always get to make objective decisions...in most jobs we often have to follow rules that we may not entirely agree with...take Midwives who have to perform terminations because of legislation.....yeah I know of the track but just llustrating