IDIOTS on OUR best roads

[badlieutenant]

Its a shame but sh16 was never going to remain the reasonably free of trafic fun road it has been for many years.
All you have to do is look at the number of new houses been built out there.
Its a bummer but everything changes and there will always be dickheads who if they are lucky live long enough to be able to say that they used to be a complete nob untill they grew up and then vent their frustration at the new lot of dickheads coming thru.
only difference is there are more of them on roads with more of everything else driving on them too.
I wonder how long before the roads out the back of dargaville have the same problem (not including the loopy season)

[Motu]

Yes,the old farts always had it better in their day,it's the way of the world.SH16's problem is that now Transhit want it an alternate route north,and that's rooted it.As someone who rides the backroads,it's surprising how quickly they are ''discovered'' by those who like to go fast once they are sealed - on another thread there is a warning about cops targeting Woodcocks Rd,which crosses between SH1 and SH16.....if you wanted to sift thousands of posts you might find me mentioning how there was less gravel on Woodcocks and they'll soon have another road to ride....a matter of months and the cops have it marked.The lower SH22 to Te Uku will be the same once it's sealed - what was once avoided like the plague will become a race track....and guess who will come to watch.....

[DEATH_INC.]

On this subject motu, I'll bring up something that's been on my mind lately, the coro loop. Every weekend there seems to be a ride around it, guys it's only a matter of time before nodmans henchmen start to take notice.....there's alot of other(non-bikers) people using those roads....try to hook up with others rides and not hammer it every weekend... and yes I know it's not just us, but we can help.

[Lord Derosso]

Iam also looking forward to getting back into both coastal tours. All of my friends killed were actually riding in cities off highways at the time so its my belief its safer on the open road where you tend to have more sight, control and time to do the things needed to survive. If younger/new bikers do intend to do the East or West coast rides all the way down south my advice is to watch out as these are rural type areas and you may encounter new conditions such as livestock. Just be more aware or prepared of whats coming up. You learn from experience and can pass this on as you go. And by the way.. do take the time also to stop and enjoy our country and take pictures for your albums. Riding is about experiencing new things and having fun and you cant do this if you just want to get from A to B in a hurry.

[Lord Derosso]

PS... Could someone enlight us Southerners re the Coro ride. I presume its a round trip around the Coromandel and back up the East coast and back?
I went up thorough the entire East Coast some years ago and intended to check out the Coromandel but got caught in a huge summer storm so rode straight through to a mates place in Auckland instead. Great trip from Gisborne all the way around though. amazing scenery.

[igor]

On this subject motu, I'll bring up something that's been on my mind lately, the coro loop. Every weekend there seems to be a ride around it, guys it's only a matter of time before nodmans henchmen start to take notice.....there's alot of other(non-bikers) people using those roads....try to hook up with others rides and not hammer it every weekend... and yes I know it's not just us, but we can help.

nah the cops won't go up there. to hard to enforce, not enuf traffic flow and to hard to set up and capture and need more than 1 staff member.

and really how many places can ya do big numbers.

easier pickings on SH27

I still wonder why they ant set up on Wharepapa sth road towards mangakino. sam thing. ya get some goods speeds along there but not enuf traffic flow, cops will fall asleep waiting between speeders

[MSTRS:Me]

PS... Could someone enlight us Southerners re the Coro ride. I presume its a round trip around the Coromandel and back up the East coast and back?
I went up thorough the entire East Coast some years ago and intended to check out the Coromandel but got caught in a huge summer storm so rode straight through to a mates place in Auckland instead. Great trip from Gisborne all the way around though. amazing scenery.

Coro loop is...Thames, then up the west side of the peninsula, across to the east side and down to Whitianga?, then back across to Thames. Well, basically anyway.

[Madness]

I still wonder why they ant set up on Wharepapa sth road towards mangakino.

Sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!!
That's enough of that talk thank you very much.

[Motu]

On this subject motu, I'll bring up something that's been on my mind lately, the coro loop. Every weekend there seems to be a ride around it, guys it's only a matter of time before nodmans henchmen start to take notice.....there's alot of other(non-bikers) people using those roads....try to hook up with others rides and not hammer it every weekend... and yes I know it's not just us, but we can help.

And it's not that long ago that the loop was sealed - when I bought my XLV750 in 1999 at Whitianga I test rode it on the gravel roads,a year or two later and it was sealed - now it's a Meca for a fast ride.Before that if you went to the Coromandel you were going to have to go on gravel or turn around.I'm pretty sure if you talked to a local on these roads they'll have something to say about the increased traffic and the higher speed.

When I was on Waiheke Island I used to have to travel over a steep and twisty gravel road to get out of our place,it was part of the old TT course.As well as riding and driving on it of course,I used to like to walk to work if possible,it was only 3 km.I could walk the 2.5 km along Seaview Rd without seeing a single car morning or afternoon,it was a realy nice walk,bush and fantastic views.When they sealed the road I stopped walking as there were so many cars on the narrow road it was dangerous for a pedestrian.Sealing brings increased traffic,higher speeds and more accidents - not safer at all!

[MSTRS:Me]

Sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!!
That's enough of that talk thank you very much.

Gently. Not done to upset the resident Igor. Who do you think keeps us in (mostly) limbs and stuff?

[MSTRS:Me]

Sealing brings increased traffic,higher speeds and more accidents - not safer at all!

One of the major arguments being used on the Wairoa to Waikeremoana road. The districts towies & ambos want the gravel to stay.

[Ixion]

Well, the Coro loop issue is easily solved. Just vary the route a bit. Use Road 309 to Coroglen instead of the present route. Sorted

[Ixion]

,,Sealing brings increased traffic,higher speeds and more accidents - not safer at all!

More to the point, it also brings out the bunnies. The bumblers who would never venture on a gravel road , but once it's sealed they think it's fine.

'Twas the ruination of the Coromandel when they sealed the road to Tapu.

I hate the way they are obsessively sealing roads.

[DEATH_INC.]

And it's not that long ago that the loop was sealed - when I bought my XLV750 in 1999 at Whitianga I test rode it on the gravel roads,a year or two later and it was sealed - now it's a Meca for a fast ride.Before that if you went to the Coromandel you were going to have to go on gravel or turn around.

Yeah, the first time I did it there was still a small patch of gravel (I think about 2001 or so) and almost no traffic.

[willy_01]

I reckon a biker can go as fast as they want, we all know the l risks, we have to otherwise we wouldn’t pass our license. Like someone else said it gets a bit annoying always getting told how to live.

The best thing is for a newbie rider (on a 250cc bike) to have a good crash, believe me it works as a speed limiter, and for those who keep pushing it way too far, well nature will sort them out eventually.

As for getting angry about other bikers attracting police, you have to be doing something wrong in the first place to be put at an inconvenience ie getting a ticket. You know the speed limit is 109 (bar around schools) on the open road, it is your choice to break the limit thus you must be prepared to get pinged if you get busted

take some responsibility people, do what you want to do but don’t have a cry when it goes pear shaped. Remember when it comes to road rules and bikes innocence is only a matter of timing!