IDIOTS on OUR best roads

**SwanTiger** · 10th May 2006, 13:48

Originally Posted by John

Oh and ask anyone that I ride with how shit I am at riding the 6, I suck I go slow I cant keep up and all that so dont know what your on about maybe you need to go ride your bike next weekend (as long as its not raining - and there is lots of lattes and crap for you to feed on)

John isn't talking shit.

I overtook him on my Hyosung so it says a lot about his riding on the ZX6R at the moment.

**cowpoos** · 10th May 2006, 15:15

lunicy is a odd one.....who decides who is a lunitic?....who decides who is dangerous?

someone can be flying along at 180kmph through some fast open sweepers thinking they're fuckin going for it....next thing another bike will come blazing by leaving a trail of fire on the road in its wake...dissappearing of into the distance....theres no way rider one is gunna beable to comprehend how this could hav happened really....the second riders obviously danergous!!....right on the edge of crashing!!....he'll even swear on his life that that dangerous rider was on the wrong side of the road or almost in the grass.....and he'll whing about it to everyone that listens at the pub that night...

when reality has it....that the second rider has a greater perception of speed than the first rider....he can see space and room....lines....braking points...everything critical from a rapid riders point of veiw...he can see all those things alot faster than the first rider....that dosn't make him some dumbshit dangerous fuck hole....it makes him a skilled rider at high speeds....

I think most you fellas are just bloody jealous at others skills....other wise why would you care...honestly...do u care about soliders going off to battle? after all its their own risks they are taking with there own lives ain't it? they hav obvious skills that will likely increase there chances of survival? do they not?

or is this just an argument about who's right and who's wrong?
we all have different perceptions of things now don't we?

**Paul in NZ** · 10th May 2006, 15:35

Originally Posted by cowpoos

or is this just an argument about who's right and who's wrong?
we all have different perceptions of things now don't we?

Nope - this is an argument about how people breaking the law will bring unwanted attention to other people who are not quite so obviously into breaking the law.

**Ixion** · 10th May 2006, 15:37

Got it in one. Beautifully succinct.

**Motu** · 10th May 2006, 17:24

Discrete misbehaviour - the most important lesson I learned in school,was that if I sat not too far away,and not too close to the teacher,and didn't make any sudden moves...like putting my hand up - was that I could do my homework for the next period while all the naughty kids were marched out for a caning.Too many people just have to be noticed...and they get the attention they desire....just so long as no one looks too closely at me....

**Edbear** · 10th May 2006, 20:05

I think Kevie has a point. He says he dobs in those he considers dangerous, (as different from merely speeding, Kevie?) and I do the same to car drivers, but I realised I haven't dobbed in bikers for idiot behaviour. Not sure why, never thought about it. Of course those who engage in dangerous riding no doubt do not consider it to be so, just as incompetent car drivers do not consider themselves incompetent, either. It's all about perceptions, and as road users in public, we need to be aware of how other road users perceive our riding/driving. Many motorists have and use cellphones these days, and if we want the public to accept biking as a legitimate and enjoyable means of transport and recreation, we should be considerate of those we share the road with, both fellow bikers and cars. I've said several times that there are places and times we can "stretch our legs" in relative obscurity, though of course if one really wants to have a full-on blast, a track day is the only proper option. I've heard they're a real buzz, so one day I may try one.

**cowpoos** · 10th May 2006, 21:15

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Nope - this is an argument about how people breaking the law will bring unwanted attention to other people who are not quite so obviously into breaking the law.

I don't believe it is....I think thats how it may have intended to start but its not really the full topic now....

**Paul in NZ** · 11th May 2006, 09:28

Originally Posted by cowpoos

I don't believe it is....I think thats how it may have intended to start but its not really the full topic now....

Still the topic, it's just all the attention seekers are still at it.. 'Look at meeeeee' I'm faaaaassssttt and your not hahahaha oh - bonk - ouch '

**kevie** · 11th May 2006, 09:42

Originally Posted by Edbear

I think Kevie has a point. He says he dobs in those he considers dangerous, (as different from merely speeding, Kevie?) and I do the same to car drivers, but I realised I haven't dobbed in bikers for idiot behaviour. Not sure why, never thought about it. Of course those who engage in dangerous riding no doubt do not consider it to be so, just as incompetent car drivers do not consider themselves incompetent, either. It's all about perceptions, and as road users in public, we need to be aware of how other road users perceive our riding/driving. Many motorists have and use cellphones these days, and if we want the public to accept biking as a legitimate and enjoyable means of transport and recreation, we should be considerate of those we share the road with, both fellow bikers and cars. I've said several times that there are places and times we can "stretch our legs" in relative obscurity, though of course if one really wants to have a full-on blast, a track day is the only proper option. I've heard they're a real buzz, so one day I may try one.

Thank you kind sir.......Youre onto it....I DONT dob in every vehicle that does something wrong, I drive a 20 metre rig and get passed a lot on corners and yellow lines but dont dob ALL of them in, just the ones that have a near miss doing it and endanger others lives. (and before you comment on truckies that dont make way for cars ... I move over when I can and indicate to tell vehicles its safe to go)

If they wanna kill themselves thats fine with me as long as they dont scratch my $$half million Scania

I dont disaprove of speed, as I said ... NZ roads are safe at reasonable speeds, I said its unsafe when done in a dangerous fashion. Ive been out riding and got up to 160km/h on a good strait backroad trying my bike out one day, but normally im the one at the back of a bike run going 100km/h cos I like to enjoy a ride and see the scenery.

**John** · 11th May 2006, 09:44

Originally Posted by swanny

John isn't talking shit.

I overtook him on my Hyosung so it says a lot about his riding on the ZX6R at the moment.

I WAS PULLING OVER!

AND IT WAS A 50K ZONE RETARD

**kevie** · 11th May 2006, 09:51

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Dobbing in other bikers is beyond the pale. I wouldn't unless they did something that directly endangers me and even then I'd think long and hard about it.

I do IF THEY DO SOMETHING REALLY DANGEROUS AND STUPID .... and I know that a lot of passing moves on a motorcycle looks dangerous but is actually ok... so I weight up every situation with all bad driving I see eg: I have been passed 19 times on yellow lines and 5 times on blind corners in 4 weeks, out of those 24 times, I *555'd 4 of them so I think im pretty fair in who I 'dob in'

BUT ....bottom line is ... we ARE road users, comming under the road laws AND we have a bad image already as bikers ... truckers are the same... many hate trucks... so we as a 'class' of motorists need to be aware of the preconcieved ideas and ride in a way that will change that perception of us as motorcyclists.

Im proud to be a biker, proud to be in KB and in the local motorcycle club.

But why close our eyes when another road user does something that is really dangerous and risks our ACC levy and our image as bikers?

If trying to keep the roads (MY WORKPLACE!) safer is a crime to you guys ... then yeh ....shoot me ....

**kevie** · 11th May 2006, 10:03

Originally Posted by mikey

awesome man, if i knew where marton was i'd keep my eyes open for an old shitter jap cruiser an make sure i wheelied past everyone i saw, an "pat" the rider on the head as i went past too

HAHAHAHAHA

You would have to slow down a lot to get to slap this old coots head........ you'd be past me so fast you wouldnt have time to do it

Oh and Marton is that lost place just off SH1 12 km north of Bulls

if you pass through ... dont blink, you will miss it.... actually you willl miss this old slow coot too if you blink

Actually .....come to think of it ....does Marton have any streets long enough to pull a wheely on