Tighter rules for overseas drivers.

**Swoop** · 1st June 2006, 08:23

From this mornings harold.

8.00am Thursday June 1, 2006

Rules tightening overseas driver licences come into effect today in a move to stop identity fraud and people avoiding demerit points by using two licences.

Overseas drivers with non-English licences must carry an English translation or an international driving permit, and overseas licences will be invalidated when New Zealand ones are issued.

Drivers will have to show their passport and original licence when a New Zealand one is issued in a move to stop identity fraud.

A possible improvement???

**Beemer** · 1st June 2006, 09:30

It will only work for those who actually have a licence though!

**Ixion** · 1st June 2006, 09:46

Nor will it stop Wei Lui Jing from presenting his Chinese licence (with translation), getting pinged 100 points, and then simply writing off back to china for a new licence in the name of Jing Wei Lui (and can any of you tell me with certainty what this person's "surname" would be ?). Complete with translation.

Rinse , lather , repeat.

I really really really hate to have to say it , but this problem won't go away until there is some reliable biometric identifer on the licence.

**sAsLEX** · 1st June 2006, 09:49

Originally Posted by Ixion

there is some reliable biometric identifer on the licence.

Cause they all look the same in their pictures, is that what your trying to say Ixion?

**Ixion** · 1st June 2006, 10:04

No, cos there is no way for a cop to know that Jing Wei Lui , whose licence he is inspecting, is in fact also Wei Lui Jing, who is forbidden to drive/disqualifed/etc. The licence issuing process in China appears, on reasonably reliable evidence, to be far from robust.

The pictures will be fine, Jing Wei Lui's picture will match him perfectly. As will Wei Lui Jing's. But there is no way to search the licence database for a photo match, and it would hardly be reliable even if it were.

reliance on photgraphs as a certain form of identification is vastly overrated.

**Motu** · 1st June 2006, 10:17

Is Jing Wei Lui male or female? If male he might also be known as Vincent,or Tommy....if female she also might be Rose or Vivian.....Mind you,we've been dealing with multi interchangable named Samoan's for over 30 years.

Mohamad Mohamed is a puzzle though....

**sAsLEX** · 1st June 2006, 10:35

Originally Posted by Motu

Mohamad Mohamed is a puzzle though....

Is he allowed a picture on his license though?

**Ixion** · 1st June 2006, 11:18

Only if he is wearing a bhurka.

**Motu** · 1st June 2006, 11:22

Oh no! Sorry sorry sorry!!!!! I got his name wrong! Shit,talk about embaressing....

Should be Mohamed Mohamad.

**Marmoot** · 1st June 2006, 12:10

I am tempted to say something about fingerprints in License as what we had in Asian countries, but then some Civil Libertarians in here might burn me on a stake for blasphemy........

**ManDownUnder** · 1st June 2006, 12:37

Originally Posted by Marmoot

I am tempted to say something about fingerprints in License as what we had in Asian countries, but then some Civil Libertarians in here might burn me on a stake for blasphemy........

LOL - dude they can have my fingerprints - nothing to hide so what do I care?
MDU

**Marmoot** · 1st June 2006, 12:57

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

LOL - dude they can have my fingerprints - nothing to hide so what do I care?
MDU

hey, me too.

Unlike some people

**ManDownUnder** · 1st June 2006, 12:58

Originally Posted by Marmoot

hey, me too.

Unlike some people

But but but... you can't say that - you're not paranoid, you don't want to hide anything...

You're not from around here are you?????

LOL

**Drunken Monkey** · 1st June 2006, 12:59

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

LOL - dude they can have my fingerprints - nothing to hide so what do I care?
MDU

Dude, because it's not what you will or won't do, but what someone else will do wiht your information. One hand its true that if you haven't anything to hide and won't do anything wrong, you have little to fear by having your personal details saved in a computer system somewhere, but you don't know what sort of mischeif people can get up to with your information if they get hold of it.