Bike down and car just drives by..(WTF)..?

[RT527]

Isn't it an offence to fail to stop and render assistance?

um its only an offence if you are involved with the accident as i see it.
I could be wrong, Someone of the law care to enlighten us...?

[Ixion]

No, I think you are right. Which is rather silly, since all the parties involved in an accident (bike or car) might be unable to assist themselves, let alone others.

[RT527]

Also it doesnt surprise me either......some incidents we go to are real hard to find, specially as the ppl ringing 111 are still mobile and by the time the operator gets to asking the location , they are usually 5 to 6 kms further on so they just look at the nearest road sign and tell them that , which doesnt help much, was driving to a call one day in which we were just a pump truck backing up 2 rescue trucks and maramarua who are rural fire to a truck vrs van, accident was spose to be at maramarua golf club on hway 2, we got just north of the 2 and 27 turn off which also has a golf club on the corner and about 500 meters up the road we come across the accident, was a very serious crash so then we had to start calling for our rescue truck which turned up within 15 mins and b4 the other ones made it from mangatangi/maramarua and mercer.
upside of it was we then only had bout 10 mins left b4 the golden hour rule ran out,however they did survive and were choppered to hospital.other times we can almost make it to the castle at mangatawhiri b4 we find the accident...usually cause someone didnt want to stop cause the in a hurry then give the wrong info cause they forgot where the accident was....doh!!!!!!

[fozz rock]

Was out by myself when i drop my bike, was looking for something god know what?? and left bike on road, 4 cars go by it was only couse the 5 guy was a bike rider that he stop picked up my bike for me sat me down and got my shit together.
Was not right in the head still not come to think of it

[beyond]

Hell Terbang, sounds like you were real lucky. Not so your mate

That is the rough area where I decided to scan the scenery and disapeared off the road to have a closer look at the vegetation.

Old people get real scared and even when we have decent kit on, they do appear to get a little intimidated. Most people are pretty good, especially farmers. Most the rides all of us go on, seem to be country side anyway, so go farmers.

Hope your mate comes right quick. Lot to be said for wearing a full race suit, boots and gloves aye?

[RT527]

No, I think you are right. Which is rather silly, since all the parties involved in an accident (bike or car) might be unable to assist themselves, let alone others.

I happen to agree with you, ppl dont understand about shock.....might not even be affecting the patient, could be affecting anyone involved in the accident from a witness to the person who was hit from behind/side/front etc.
:So any form of help would be encouraged from me if you happen to be first on the scene, be it a simple phone call for an ambulance,you can only do what you think is right for the person, unlike in america you cannot be sued if it happens to be wrong.just keeping someone warm is often enough to keep them alive.just remember S.R.A.B.C.S which is
:Safety-Yours and Patients.
:Response-Check for Patient Response
:Airway- Check And Clear Airway in the 'As Found' posistion
:Breathing-Keeping airway clear...Use look listen and feel techniques-if breathing= Recovery Posistion if able too.
:Circulation-Consider CPR if needed
Severe Bleeding-Carry out rapid assesment of patient-if there is severe bleeding do every thing needed to stop blood flow.
Above is shortened version of what you should do....I do recomend Doing a First Aid course.
try convincing your boss that at your workplace that you all could benifit from a First Aid course, try to get them to pay for it, or at least half of the fees.Talk to your local motorcycle club see if they can orginise something.
Sometimes its the little things that can keep someone else alive.
http://www.stjohn.org.nz/tips/srabcs.aspx

[sunhuntin]

Yup you hit the nail on the head.. He also admits to misinterperating the road and wasnt fully aware of the pending intersection. I tend to think that fixation played a part here as he was looking at my rear (well my bikes rear) and that is what he hit on a 2 lane road..!

thought so....one thing i dislike about group riding, or following a car too close for that matter, is i cant properly see whats up ahead.
fixation would have not helped. first bin, i was staring at the car the pulled out, and so i hit it. second near miss, i was staring for a second at the car that overtook the other car, then i moved my vision to the ditch, so thats where i was pointing when i finally stopped. left a nice skid mark on the road.

better your rear wheel than oncoming traffic i suspect!

[Dadpole]

This "leave 'em and drive past" thing is not new. Way back in 1974, I highsided on the Wainui Hill and hit the ground hard. Nothing that required more than a quick trip to A&E, but the impact left me lying on the road for at least 3 minutes before I could move. A few cars drove around me before someone stopped. I was blocking the slow lane so they may have just cursed the inconvenience I caused. The bit that got me, was that less than 25 metres up the road, 2 guys were working under the bonnet of a broken down car.
When I stopped bouncing, I was facing up the road, and watched them standing looking at me for a minute or so before going back to work. All of this time I was just lying there without moving. Thanks Guys.

Perhaps it was their patch of oil/water that had started my adventure - Bastards.

[Headbanger]

meh, The rider was being attended to (by you) and you didn't wave em down, they were perfectly in the right.

Next time tell your riding buddies to ride in a staggered pattern, There is no need for the next bike behind to be following in your footstep.

[Insanity_rules]

Dunno but it should be an offence and unfortunately I didnt get the Rego as I was stunned with total disbelief at what I was seeing..

I thought it was an offence, leaving the scene or something? Some people are such ass hats. I mean they could have at least diverted traffic or something.

[Sniper]

You should have found the nearest rock and thrown it at the. Regardless of what they felt, they should have stopped. What would have happened if he was alone? Or if you were not his real friend and was trying to steal his wallet? Good on you for stivking with your mate, I know I would have had a couple irrational thoughts and taken off after those dicks and shared a bit of knowledge.....

[Lou Girardin]

Isn't it an offence to fail to stop and render assistance?

Don't suppose you got their rego?

Only if you're a particpant in the accident.

[Sniper]

meh, The rider was being attended to (by you) and you didn't wave em down, they were perfectly in the right.

No they weren't. They are required to stop.

Next time tell your riding buddies to ride in a staggered pattern, There is no need for the next bike behind to be following in your footstep.

Take it you are a regular group rider? When I ride I like to be aware of the riders around me (if any) and I also like to see the sights. I understand your words, but I think them unfair in this situation as it could of happened to anyone else under the same circumstances.

[Shaun]

It does suck that a car just drove on by you guys BUT,
I wonder if this car was one that you guys had just blasted by? following each other far to close?
And the accident never would have happened if the guy that crashed had been using more good riding skills and not following your rear wheel as per the road code. I know I will probally get shot down for that one, but this hole thread is a true reflection of the NZ society now.

Something goes wrong, and every one looks for someone else to blaim, you all go on about bloody (cages) Try being just a cage driver, and then a bike blasts past you from no where with another 2 or so following really close! Bet you would shit yourself as well.

If you were not a bike rider, this kind of riding that some riders think is a ok really is -ucked riding skills, bike riders are not that well liked in the first place, and you guys go out riding in big groups thinking the road rules do not apply to us because we are bike riders.

Finally, well wishes to your mate, but please think about group riding habits in the future, you guys are just shitting in your own nests, and yes, I have been guilty of riding in the same way untill someone pointed out the points that I have just posted

[Motu]

Yes,there could been a bit of ''I told you he'd crash'' talk in the car - I too have an issue about flocks of bikes monstering cars on these back roads....and like Shaun I've been guilty of it myself....and still do the odd occassion.

What time was this? I saw a couple of sportbikes at the Huntly end of Heatherington Rd about 2.00 ish as I was heading home from a choice ride....they didn't wave of course.