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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    On the subject of BRONZ, we have had articles in the media bagging bikes, and about the 'increase' in fatals to be expected.
    Yet to my knowledge there has not been one press release from BRONZ addressing any of these.
    So is there likely to be a decrease in fatals if there is an increase in bike numbers?

    Are the articles inaccurate?
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    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    The articles are based on faulty logic, particularly when it has been demonstrated statistically that regos are up for PTWs and the percentage of accidents, injuries, and fatals have dropped massively as a percentage of the total regos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN
    So is there likely to be a decrease in fatals if there is an increase in bike numbers?

    Are the articles inaccurate?
    That certainly is the case here between 2004 and 2005, and also in London when congestion charging increased the number of bikes - accidents fell.
    But no bugger is telling the great unwashed.
    In addition, Damian Codognotto of the Aust MRAA has campaigned against wire rope barriers in Vic. He gained a promise in 1999 that they would not be used on any new roads. A promise that they are reneging on now. But at least they're fighting. They got the anti lane splitting proposal rejected recently as well.
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    Just out of curiosity Lou do you have any idea of their membership number in comparison to BRONZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder
    Just out of curiosity Lou do you have any idea of their membership number in comparison to BRONZ?

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    No, but I'm going to email them for info on barriers when I get a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    No, but I'm going to email them for info on barriers when I get a chance.

    It'll give you something else to do nothing but complain about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    That certainly is the case here between 2004 and 2005, and also in London when congestion charging increased the number of bikes - accidents fell.
    Cool! You no doubt have seen stats or evidence of this so it would be great if you could pass this on and I shall take it up at the BRONZ meeting tonight.

    Would also be handy to know if the decrease fatals in London was as a result of greater numbers of bikes or significantly reduced numbers of cars. But hopefully the stats will show this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    You say "no one wants to fuck with some large bloke on a really angry sounding bike" but the truth of the matter is that you are a balding middle-aged ice-cream seller from Edgecume who wears a hello kitty t-shirt (in your profile pic) and your angry sounding bike is a fucken hyoshit - not some big assed harley with a human skull on the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaN
    Cool! You no doubt have seen stats or evidence of this so it would be great if you could pass this on and I shall take it up at the BRONZ meeting tonight.

    Would also be handy to know if the decrease fatals in London was as a result of greater numbers of bikes or significantly reduced numbers of cars. But hopefully the stats will show this.
    It was reported in Bike mag some months ago, they quoted the survey results. But I give the old issues away, so I don't have it now.
    You could google it, I can't from work.
    I think the conclusion was that greater numbers of bikes equalled greater awareness of them. Fewer cars on the road would help too, I guess.
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    That would make sense. It's reasonably commonly accepted that car drivers don't see bikers because they are expecting to see cars. Make bikes more common on the road and drivers will expect to see them at intersections. They think, therefore they will.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeak the Rat
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