Police working to a quota?? Surely not...

[James Deuce]

No point whinging about it. You're not regarded as anything other than a taxable economic resource.

[WINJA]

fucken pigs why dont they have a similar quota on catching burglars and then be held accountable for that quota , i blame the pig on the coal face for enforcing this bullshit cause with some unity they can say fuck off to their superiors

[inlinefour]

instead of turning this in to a cop bashing thread.....how about we turn it into a government bashing thread!!!

They are the swines who are teling the ploddies what they can/cannot do.

And as WINJA said, about time that the Govt allowed the Police do what they are supposed to do. Protect the NZ people, not rape and pillage out on the road...

[Ixion]

We have on this site a number of members who are police oficers. They have various commented that they apply discretion and common sense in their policing actvities, statements borne out by their general attitude. So it is clearly possible for individual officers to override or disregard any over zealous orders from on high

There is also more than sufficient evidence of other police officers whose attitudes are markedly different.

Now, the question is, if the KB coppers can behave decently, then why cannot the others.

So, as Mr WINJA says, the finger cannot only be pointed at "the bosses" or "the government". Clearly it is they who set the tone, but it is individual coppers who choose to go along with it. Our own members evidence that despite the bosses or overnment, it is the individual who chooses to be a cunt, or not.

[N4CR]

So, as Mr WINJA says, the finger cannot only be pointed at "the bosses" or "the government". Clearly it is they who set the tone, but it is individual coppers who choose to go along with it. Our own members evidence that despite the bosses or overnment, it is the individual who chooses to be a cunt, or not.

Yep, sometimes at work I will get told something specific by the boss and some poor bugger comes in who has stuffed something up, I will sometimes apply judgement to help them out without the usual exhorbitant charge, basic stuff like that goes along way for P.R...
Then things change after a while when they see the positives and that it ain't always about money.

Mabey there could be a lesson learnt here?

Most of the cops on here are lurkers, at least more than one still applies judgment where appropriate...

[smokeyging]

fucken pigs why dont they have a similar quota on catching burglars

Good point, unfortunatly the goverment probably thinks the burglers are'nt silly enough to get revenue from, and probably have no money anyway.

[igor]

yawn

[scumdog]

When it comes to speeding this is the easiest and most effecient method of upholding the Law and I guess that this cannot be argued.

I have myself witnesses bad driving in front of a patrol car and nothing happens because speeding is objective and cannot be argued.

True about the 'can't be argued' thing Gb as often i get the comeback "I wasn't following too close" or "I never crossed the yellow line" etc so I guess a few stick to speed.

Re the bad driving you witnessed: A ticket is a ticket, susprised it wasn't acted on, maybe there were other circumstances in this incident?.

Mean while I'll just duck for cover whenever some disgruntled KBer opens up on the ticket thing. (and thank my lucky stars that speed cameras, HP cops etc leave me alone, maybe it's something to do with the speeds I ride? )

[scumdog]

Good point, unfortunatly the goverment probably thinks the burglers are'nt silly enough to get revenue from, and probably have no money anyway.

Sounds like some KBers.

[Da Bird]

FACT: Districts are ranked from 1 to 12 (12 districts in the country) on a range of road policing fronts, from crashes to speeding offences to seatbelt wearning compliance and others.

When you are sitting at the bottom of one of those particular ladders, what do you think happens? A directive usually comes from the top (shit flows downhill) to target that area. No quota as such is set but a "push" in that area obviously results in more tickets, whether it be for speeding or whatever.

As for a quota of one an hour that was mentioned in the paper, (8 or 9 in a shift), I can do that in 2-3 hours sitting at one intersection. Its not exactly hard to do and there needs to be some accountability as to what that cop is doing all day.

And WINJA, if I did what you suggested, I'm not likely to get a pay rise so sorry, but that plan just failed.

BC.

[Biff]

Simply blaming the cop at the 'coal face' is wrong. If my guys ignored the quotas/targets I give them I'd give them a hard time in return for not following instructions. IMO this is down to poor governance. Once again, thanks to policy, police officers loose credibility and public support through the actions of their superiors and govt.

Then again, if you don't break the rules they wont break your balls.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

if they dident have demerits or 28 day loss of licence we could just rent a speed say $100 per hour for sub 200kms and $200per hour for over good revenue for far north after the crash in the drug industry.

[Clivoris]

A while ago, a senior fed suggested dropping fines and doubling demerits (or something like that). Initialy this seemed like a good idea. After a little thought, I figured a bit of extra speeding tax paid on occasion might be the softer option. In the end we know the rules of the game and we have to suck it up if we get caught. I do feel sympathy for the feds caught between a disgruntled public; and politicians and managers, politicking and managing.

[spudchucka]

Article in the herald here
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/st...ectID=10389327

I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that some traffic policing is about revenue rather than safety

Its not about revenue gathering or road safety, its all about getting more tickets than your colleagues so that you can make them shout the first round at the policemans ball!

[Grahameeboy]

True about the 'can't be argued' thing Gb as often i get the comeback "I wasn't following too close" or "I never crossed the yellow line" etc so I guess a few stick to speed.

Re the bad driving you witnessed: A ticket is a ticket, susprised it wasn't acted on, maybe there were other circumstances in this incident?.

Mean while I'll just duck for cover whenever some disgruntled KBer opens up on the ticket thing. (and thank my lucky stars that speed cameras, HP cops etc leave me alone, maybe it's something to do with the speeds I ride? )

Tell you what if they stick a gun at the end of my road they would get about 1 every 5 mins so there is some merit in issues about where the Police set up speed traps which does throw some mud at the safety aspect....straight road in Dairy Flats or residential area..............mmm what do you reckon the answer is??

Last year we had some hoon doing wheel spins up our road, yes it does happen in Devonport lovelies.....cop was renting across road and we gave chase and got 'im...

But agree that no point getting disgruntled about tickets....105 points and me has to get a limited licence cause of me Daughter....no complaints, get ferry to work and just a nuisance for 3 months......but has made me think about things.......