Well done
Rider Coach
Well done
Just faidin away!
As our second son and his family have just moved to the Wanaka Area, Mrs O/R and I have been popping over the Lindis Pass and back quite frequently in the last couple of weeks.
Every trip there have been an assortment of cars and trucks that have spun out on the ice with varying degrees of consequence.
Going over on Tuesday there was a blockade caused by a woman who spun off into the creek and was quite seriously injured, she was taken away in a helicopter and her son was taken away in an ambulance. Three Cop cars in attendance and break down vehicles.
As we rode down through the tangle of vehicles on the bike we got quite a few smart comments and hand signals etc about we shouldn't be going through there on a bloody motorbike for f**ks sake.
The only danger that we face is the bloody cagers who are liable to spin out and take us with them or coming up too fast and slamming into us from the rear.
All you have to do is find the most appropriate gear and speed and follow the grit trails that the cagers can't even see because they don't have the incentive to look for them.
It was bloody cold coming home last night and the road was very frosty in a couple of places but we didn't loose our footing at all, unlike the idiot in front of us, we just rode around him, you should have seen the look on his face as we rode by on the bike while he was going back from whence he came.
The trip from Wanaka (almost to treble Cone ski field) to home or back the other way takes just under an hour and half and is full of variety and and a real fun ride.
Motorcycles are not dangerous, they are just a total delight.
god im bored!!
Wellington city is the most dangerous city in the southern hemisphere to ride a push bike, people get nailed every other day, id rather ride my motor bike and take the risk cos at least i get my own lane to ride in!!!
Damm trolley buses!!
One, two free, floor!
Yup, and insurance and registration and depreciation (on a $6,300 bike)...Originally Posted by quickbuck
Rear tire at $200 every 15,000km = 1.3c/km
Front at $$160 every 10,000km = 1.6c/km
Fuel at 10c/km
Oil at $15 every 5000km = 0.3c/km
Insurance = $350/year = 2.3c/km
Reg at $150(?)/year = 1c/km
Unscheduled costs at $500/year = 3.3c/km
Al up running cost... 19.8c/km
Car fuel cost alone... 19.c/km
Depreciation, maintenance, insurance registration there's no way in hell all that would fit into 0.8c/km...
So as I said - tis cheaper than the car.
Anything else I can help you with?.. oh yes I remember - toodling in the nude. I only do it upon special request, and then only in summer... avoids that embarrassing shrinkiage - I mean who wants a 2" willy?
edit - sorry sorry sorry - I forgot depreciation. 33,000kms added to the bike and let's say it has a current residual value of $3,300... for ease of calulation.
that 0.1c/km hardly tips the balance ... does it?
As for the gear
All up $1,000 for the lot. if I run the bike cheaper than the car by a mere 5c/km... which I think I'll EASILY do... that has a payback of 20,000kms - it is well and truly paid back. I expect to beat the car by around 10c/km... reducing that payback to 10,000kms... or 8 months.
Let me know if I can detail anything else for you.
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Big McJim
You should run for Prime Minister your ideas on road safety are 100% more accurate than that Twat Police minister in road policing O'Connor whoops hope your not related!! I should forward your commenst to my wife in regards to enhancing my purchase a motorcycle campaign! riding a scooter doesn't cut it just makes you hungrier to the thrill of a real bike its just gonna be done !!
Scotsman on a German
Yeah - I think the point I was trying to make really is that bikes are vulnerable - not dangerous. Cagers kill bikers, bikers don't kill cagers. Bikers, sadly, occasionally kill themselves but don't take rafts of innocent bystanders with them when they do. I have been deeply saddened by the number of bike deaths recently - Please let's all remember how vulnerable we really are and ride with as much care and attention as we each have available.
Cheers everyone.
The Big McJim
In space, no one can smell your fart.
Rider Coach
Your tyres are too cheap, last too long.
10c/k on fuel? HOW?
Oil is too cheap.
Insurance is too expensive
To licence your bike for 1 year is $250 (so do you?).
I did not see a chain and sprockets. Brake pads, and eventually discs.
My head is worth a grand.
Feet about half that, and Jacket... Well I ride in all weather, so it ain't a cheap one either. Nor are the trousers, various sets of gloves, socks, and balaclava. Add to that all the thermals. (And none of these last forever).
As for the car, well the fuel consumption is a little more, not WAY more, and tyres 215 each, but last 40000k. The insurance is cheaper, and licence is less by $50 per year. Servicing are still free. As for clothes, a tee shirt and shorts are fine.
The truth is all cars are boaring, and the money I pour into my bike is all for fun! I do not skimp to prove that it is cheaper, and strongly discourage people who only want to ride to save on fuel costs.
Reason being, there heart and mind is not in the right place. They don't have the passion, desire, and enthusiasm a biker should.
They tend to have a few offs and then some become anti bikers and spout off how dangerous they are.
ducks nuts
Thank goodness for armour and having 360 degree vision I say. The old grannies in their A40's are the most dangerous.....
A nice Pit
Forum whore
well said!! as ive said so many times...the number of scooter kids i get in wearing little more than a lid is disgusting. however...i had a young guy come in on a gn....it wasnt busy, so pulled up my pants leg and showed him the scars from my off...and they were minor!snip....
and strongly discourage people who only want to ride to save on fuel costs.
Reason being, there heart and mind is not in the right place. They don't have the passion, desire, and enthusiasm a biker should.
They tend to have a few offs and then some become anti bikers and spout off how dangerous they are.
some people are born into...like, their parent rides. others pick it up later and love it for every aspect. others just like the cool and cheap factor....sure, its cool to come off at 50k and lose half the skin off your body.
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the really happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery when on a detour.
Rider Coach
Why, thank you
Forum whore
Au contraire, I would say that if anything MDU overstates costs. We are not all rich like you sprotsbike chaps, some of us must contain expenses.Your tyres are too cheap, last too long.
10c/k on fuel? HOW?
Oil is too cheap.
Insurance is too expensive
To licence your bike for 1 year is $250 (so do you?).
I did not see a chain and sprockets. Brake pads, and eventually discs.
My head is worth a grand.
Feet about half that, and Jacket... Well I ride in all weather, so it ain't a cheap one either. Nor are the trousers, various sets of gloves, socks, and balaclava. Add to that all the thermals. (And none of these last forever).
As for the car, well the fuel consumption is a little more, not WAY more, and tyres 215 each, but last 40000k. The insurance is cheaper, and licence is less by $50 per year. Servicing are still free. As for clothes, a tee shirt and shorts are fine.
The truth is all cars are boaring, and the money I pour into my bike is all for fun! I do not skimp to prove that it is cheaper, and strongly discourage people who only want to ride to save on fuel costs.
Reason being, there heart and mind is not in the right place. They don't have the passion, desire, and enthusiasm a biker should.
They tend to have a few offs and then some become anti bikers and spout off how dangerous they are.
MDU did forget warrants, though. About 0.1 cents per km.
Tyres, I'd be indignant if I only got 10000 from a tyre. 25000 is a better number. His price seems about right I pay anywhere from $150 to $250 depending on what it's for. Tyres are one area where I don't economise, but there's no sense in being extravagant.
Why do you think oil too cheap?
Insurance, I don't .
As for gear my kit comes in under $600, and it lasts at least 6 years . So, say $100 per year. 0.2 cents per km.
As to chains and so on, cars also require maintainance. The cost break out is different, but I'm pretty sure that over all the bike costs less. More bills, but smaller ones.
I see no reason to deprecate anyone riding for the sake of economy. In my day that was one of the main reasons, and the reason almost all riders started out. I'd be more unhappy about a state of mind that consigned bikes to the status of playthings for the rich, like a sort of road going jet ski. I'll always have a wave for the utility motorcyclist.
Rider Coach
Don't get me wrong, so do I.
However, bikes have become a road going "PWC" (Personal Water Craft) for the road, like it or not. Don't blame me, I didn't do it, BUT that is the sole reason that a large motorcycle dealer in a city near me stocks PWC's.
As for your gear costing only $600, my head is worth way more than that. Sorry. I hate frozen toes, so my boots go close to that too (as I said).
Cars also require maintenance, yes, but it is ALWAYS cheaper. And the car tends to cover more kilometres too.
Thing is I don't have to lie to my other half how much the bike costs to run, she doesn't really care. At the end of the day it is the price of fun.
YES
your kinda contradicting yourself Jim, you didnt argue motorcycles are not dangerous, you explained exactly why they are.... cages
Scotsman on a German
Thanks for the input but the answer's in what you say - cages are dangerous - bikes are vulnerable - bikes only harm the riders - cages maim indiscriminately. Bikes are dangerous for those who ride - this is obvious but I'm trying to get people to think - where is this danger coming from. Even cage drivers are vulnerable to off road vehicles - they're 27 times more likely to be fatally injured in a collision with an off road vehicle than another car. And yet there is no uproar about 4WDs. All I'm hearing is unfair accusation of bikes being an irresponsible and dangerous choice and I think people aren't opening their minds to other realities. The purpose here was to create debate and provoke thought and other perspectives.
YES
lol 4wd's suck, my cage is a mini, but it should be ok cause there is a cage in my cage if you know what i mean
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