Another cop bashing thread

[dawnrazor]

Helen Clark?

Bloody Kiwis.....ooops forget where I was for a minute

[The Pastor]

Take the cop to the disputes tribunal so you can get another bike.

It wasnt the cops fault he crashed, but the cop is responsable for finind liability.

[Lou Girardin]

Take the cop to the disputes tribunal so you can get another bike.

It wasnt the cops fault he crashed, but the cop is responsable for finind liability.

I think the cop is irresponsible.

[inlinefour]

What bloody morons are they hiring these days?

Apparently any friggin retard with an attitude problem will do these days...

[The_Dover]

Apparently any friggin retard with an attitude problem will do these days...

Cool, I could use a part time job.

[Swoop]

Apparently any friggin retard with an attitude problem will do these days...

You forgot the "straight out of high school - spotty faced" bit.....

[Lou Girardin]

Cool, I could use a part time job.

You're over-qualified. Again.
Get a lobotomy and you can have this guys job.

[Squeak the Rat]

I write heaps of accidents off like this. Judges wont convict if there are independant witnesses saying different to the supposed victim. It sucks and I feel sorry for your mate who has had it doubly rough.

How were things different when you were in the MOT?

You dont charge someone unless you can prove it. Your mate was most probably right but people are so anti bikes all the time it can make things hard to prove.

People always think the biker is at fault, if the witnesses wont back up the rider even though he was in the right there isnt much the Police can do. In accidents like this Police are totally reliant on witness statements and if they dont add up there isnt much we can do.

Mate, it's a cop bashing thread - we don't want any logic here.

[Lou Girardin]

I would have charged the driver with careless at a minimum. It comes down to witness crediblity and scene examination. Bystanders know nothing about bike dynamics, a prosecutor would demolish them with one question. Your side is so damn keen on letting the courts decide other matters, what's the difference here?
And this could very easily have been a fatal, if he'd hit the kerb and the wall head first instead of with his feet and legs.
I wonder if it'd be written off then?

[The Stranger:Me]

I write heaps of accidents off like this. Judges wont convict if there are independant witnesses saying different to the supposed victim. It sucks and I feel sorry for your mate who has had it doubly rough.

People always think the biker is at fault, if the witnesses wont back up the rider even though he was in the right there isnt much the Police can do. In accidents like this Police are totally reliant on witness statements and if they dont add up there isnt much we can do.

Um do you have to call the witness?
It seems the cops don't bother to call witnesses when it suites their case.

[oldrider]

Um do you have to call the witness?
It seems the cops don't bother to call witnesses when it suites their case.

Or if they do they pick them to back up their prejudices.
My nephew in Auckland got cleaned up by some pricks in a cage when "they " failed to stop at a compulsory stop.
The law gathered witnesses that said "he" did not have his headlight on!
Bullshit, the damn thing was hard wired and he had ridden some distance already on his way home from work.
They were clearly at fault, he was very badly injured and the cops blamed "him"!
I was bloody bitter about the cops over that for a long time and would have done something about it had I been up there at that time.
I am getting over it now as he is working again and doing well despite the damage to his leg.
I don't blame all cops but I would love to get my hands on that bastard! John.
Ohh, I feel better now!!

[Squeak the Rat]

And this could very easily have been a fatal, if he'd hit the kerb and the wall head first instead of with his feet and legs.
I wonder if it'd be written off then?

Very good point especially in the context of the government wanting to reduce the road toll. Here's an example of some one who almost contributed to the road toll and it's a case of too hard, move along.

If the witnesses said he could have made the gap then surely that implies the driver pulled in front of the bike [unsafely]. Whether or not he "could" have gone around the car is irrelevant surely?

[scumdog]

I feel sorry for you bikers further north, I have yet to see/hear any anti-biker comment down here from both the Law and the Public. (Not to say there ISN'T)
Worse comment by a cop I've heard was from one who thought that ride organisers should be checking entrants to a poker run to make sure they held full licences if on over 250cc bikes. (This was after he attended a crash cause by somebody who was on a learners and on a big bike, they brought down 3-4 others, - so you could see where he was coming from) I soon put him right on that topic.

Apart from that one incident nothing, nada, zilch as far as negative attitude.

[Renegade]

without knowing all the details of the crash its hard for us to all judge, i know when i go to crashs whoever broke the road rules is geting looked at hard, whatever witnesses say has to be taken with a grain of salt to because most people dont even know what they actually saw, id take em to court regardless of what the witness said if he broke the rules, sounds like the cop dosnt want anymore paper work to go with stacks hes probly already got.

[muzz]

Two vehicle's collide someone is in the wrong.
Police need to investigate the scene and determine what happened.
Not take the easy way out, do your fucken job and stop giving tickets to fill your quoter.