To hang your ass off your seat or not?

[mynameis]

The true secret to hanging-off is eating more pies. Both cheeks hang off without effort, end of problem. And you're always looking motogp stylish form all angles.

You're the funnitest out of all I give you 10/10 for GSOH

[eliot-ness]

[QUOTE=mynameis;
Good interesting point there mate, the lean angle is pretty low but interesting to see none of the riders are hanging off nor are the knees sticking out wonder why when compared to MotoGP riders of today ? Hmm[/QUOTE]

What makes the comparison more interesting is that, in 1978, after an eight year lay off, Hailwood made a comeback on the Ducati for the IOM TT. By then almost all riders were hanging off, he, having had no practice in the intervening years, rode in the old style. He not only won the race but also set a new lap and race record on a bike he hadn't raced before. Would have loved to see him up against Rossi.
A comment he made in an interveiw was very interesting. [Quote] I never ride at 100%. Just fast enough to win. [Quote]. Could be why he rarely crashed.
Another point that would be considered strange in these days of specialists. In the 60s It was normal for works riders to race in all classes. Hailwood, Redman, Agostini et al would ride 125, 250, 350 and 500cc at all world championship rounds including the TT. Hailwood even rode 50cc one year.

[Ixion]

I don't recall ever seeing Agostini hanging off , either.

Is there a connection with the difference in tyre width? Even the very powerful racing two strokes never had the extremely wide low profile tyres that seem necessary today. The tyres on a Manx Norton are narrower than those on a FXR150! But, they are "rounder". Some of the modern low profile tyres are almost flat, like a car tyre.

Nor do I ever recall anyone being very concerned about tyre width., even on racing machines.

I have never found hanging off give any benefits, but then, my bikes always have the old style narrow tyres. Is there a connection

[sAsLEX]

I don't recall ever seeing Agostini hanging off , either.

Is there a connection with the difference in tyre width? Even the very powerful racing two strokes never had the extremely wide low profile tyres that seem necessary today. The tyres on a Manx Norton are narrower than those on a FXR150! But, they are "rounder". Some of the modern low profile tyres are almost flat, like a car tyre.

Nor do I ever recall anyone being very concerned about tyre width., even on racing machines.

I have never found hanging off give any benefits, but then, my bikes always have the old style narrow tyres. Is there a connection

Motu brings up this point in the "any idea why?" thread in that the cog should be moved over the contact patch, which on flat wide tires moves out but stays central on skinny round tires....

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't recall ever seeing Agostini hanging off , either.

Is there a connection with the difference in tyre width? Even the very powerful racing two strokes never had the extremely wide low profile tyres that seem necessary today. The tyres on a Manx Norton are narrower than those on a FXR150! But, they are "rounder". Some of the modern low profile tyres are almost flat, like a car tyre.

Nor do I ever recall anyone being very concerned about tyre width., even on racing machines.

I have never found hanging off give any benefits, but then, my bikes always have the old style narrow tyres. Is there a connection

Only my thoughts....but may well be that the tyres they were working with were at the limits of traction out at the edge of the tyre. Modern tyres have so much grip you can ride right off the 'edge' of them....this I know, I've done so many times!! hence racers now have to 'hang off' to keep the bike sunny side up!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I totally agree. A sudden movement when hanging your arse off the seat is inclined to dirty your leathers and your bike. Sudden movements are best left for sand blasting the porcelain.

On that note: Whats brown and sits on a piano stool.












Beethovens last movement.

Good call!! I wondered what that mushy brown stain was common to all of my race suits!