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Mark - That is why they hold Track days...Originally Posted by skidMark
Frosty is holding a Taupo track day soon..... for different speeds.
Slow (newbies) medium and fast pace riders.
Which would be idea for you to learn on there.
Frosty runs a tight ship on that day... and you would be ideal to do that day.
On a track: talk to Motoracer, quasi, loosebruce, keystone or any of the other KBers that have done Pukekohe track days...
You ride YOUR line , and those coming up from behind it is their responsability to get around you.. not your prob as long as you hold your line.
So you think riding a 55km corner should be done at 90km.....
Can you see around that corner that no cow or sheep has escaped from a field....?
Track days are ideal for riders like you... the guys that do these track days all the time can teach you a lot.
on the wagon
ffs boy, you haven't a clue have you.
I hope Gareth can help you with your attitude
<< Got fuck all of these
Mate, get your ass to a track day!! Trust me, you will love it, and learn a shit load. There are slow/medium groups that you will not be the slowest in, its a friendly environment where if you ask you will get all the advice in the world.
There are two things that concern me with your attitude in this conversation, and I dont want to come accross as telling you what to do, or what to think but this is just my input....
1. You dont have to bin, ever. Sure, plenty of people do bin, but plenty of people dont as well. Binning on a bike is not progressive learning. I teach skiing where people have that attitude, but this is a you vs ashpalt, not you vs snow. Take the progression a bit slower, remove those bins from your grand plan of learning.
2. A faster rider is a better rider. FALSE. Learn to ride better, safer, more aware. Get your riding to the point where things you think about now (gear selection, other drivers around you etc) are becoming second nature. Start to wind up the speed once your skills are up to it, not the other way around.
I am not the best rider, I have only been doing it a few years myself but this is the attitude I try to bring into my riding because I do not want to bin.
I hope something in this made sense mate, i can see you are being bombarded a bit today so I hope you are still open to some constructive critisism.
Has anyone seen my baffles?
Forum whore
Mark I have not read through the entire thread, so apologies of this has been mentioned, sign up to be part of the mentor system, contact a KB mentor in Auckland, ask for help, and let them help you... you say you want help, then get it, we have a great facility to help people improve their riding.
If you have a few $'s spare Riderskills are giving KB'ers 50% discount for tuition, bike to bike communication - on the road... great tutor, stunning option.
There are many options for you. Decide what is best and do it. You can only improve something if you take action... and that goes for all things in life little dude.
Good luck.
Moped rider
This sounds like some good stuff. I've found that by practicing something thouroughly and regularly, one can pecome more than proficient with it (FPS) and now I intend to develop my riding skills the same way; because unlike a car, you can't really afford to make ANY errors learning to ride a motorcycle.
P.S. My 4 yr old son thought this-->guy was very naughty for not wearing a helmet.
!!!!!! IT'S NOT WEARING A HELMET!!! WHAT SORT OF MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING TO OUR CHILDERN??!!!!
Mcrider
Mark, come to the Taupo track day on the 8th, im heading down, that means you can give me a blat on your bike
Rest In Peace
mark... you are being a retard... riding on the road is not about being fast... its about staying alive... you could be as quick as rossi, and go hairing round a blind corner into a slow vehicle... and die... an idiot who speeds where it is dangerous... if you want to go fast round corners go on a god damn race track... where for one its legal to do stupid speeds, and you know that around that next corner there is not going to be something that could quite easily kill you
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Mate, that guy is a helmet.P.S. My 4 yr old son thought this-->
!!!!!! IT'S NOT WEARING A HELMET!!! WHAT SORT OF MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING TO OUR CHILDERN??!!!!
Mark, have you ever heard top racers talk about being in the zone? Thats when everything just happens and you put in a blinder lap, take corners perfectly, change gear at the right time, all while calm and relaxed and not really thinking about it.
The zone happens when your subconcious mind is doing the riding, and you don't have to think conciously of what you are doing. The only way for your subconcious to learn this stuff is through repitition with correct technique.
Going fast with crap technique will not make you a good rider (as usual there are one or two exceptions). Learning skills, practising them until they stick then improving is what makes you a good rider.
Have you learnt the right skills or is going fast a good enough skill? Take these peoples advice. Do a course, read, trackdays. Learn good skills and apply them safely. Where not saying don't ride fast, we're saying ride safely, however fast you choose to go.
Forum whore
if i had the money i would go do courses trackdays etc....
and i'd rather not try and push my riding on a track in all honesty...as my bike is my only transport....and when i say 55kph corners at 90 i'm talking about 100 kph zones by the way...
and dw everyone i am absorbing every word of what you are all saying into my lil walnut sized brain
Another intelligent and sensible comment from Mark, I might have to dish out some bling for this one as I admire the raw honesty.
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That's interesting that you say you are prepared to push it and bin on the road umpteen more times, but you don't want to push it on the track. On the road you have:
- Pot holes
- Power poles
- Cars
- Trucks
- Oil
- Gravel
- Logs
- Fences
- Gutters
- etc etc etc
On the track you have run-off areas and all the other traffic is going same direction and similar speed.
Training is not a cost, it is an investment. If you can, sell it to your olds that you've recognised the hazards on a bike and want to make sure you are safe, and you need to do some training.
Forum whore
Mate, if it's only the nmoney stopping you, and you can't get your olds to come to the party, I'll spot you for it. My contribution to keeping the roads safe.
Forum whore
i tell you what, with that attitude i am so glad your not in my town!! id rather you lowsided and bruised your ego on the track than lowsided and killed youself and maybe someone around you. you say the track is no place for a newbie to learn...id rather a learner rode there, had their accidents there, where there is first aid on hand and others to help pick up the peices. the road, imho, is not a good place. not if you want to ride like a bat out of hell.
speed limited corner on the open roads are limited for a damned good reason, as crashe pointed out...stock on the roads, debris on the road, wet surface etc. personally, i take speed limited corners at whatever feels comfy...i dont think ive ever taken one at the recommended speed except for when its shit weather and im not certain of the surface.
just read your 19....thought as much....bigger speeds = bigger dick?
ive binned it once....and i take half the responsibility as i too thought i was hotshot and was going faster than i should have. if id been at the speed limit, i would have had time to go for the brakes, clutch and downshift and out of the way of harm.
i keep re-reading that post of yours and shaking my head....im now thinking bikes should be restricted from kids like you. crashe has the right idea...stay behind at group rides. i know my skills and my speeds are not up to scratch, so i stay at the back...let the others go ahead and do what they wish. last time i followed behind a rider with much more experience, and i swear, my riding was so much better....i was able to follow his lines perfectly, and match his speed. nothing but a benefit!
theres just too many people can be badly hurt even killed when just one rider fucks up in group rides.
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Hardcore Biker
I haven't read the whole thread... but just to add my 2c here, all i've got to say is read 'Twist of the Wrist'. Infact, I think it's important that you do.
One thing i'll quote from it, in reference to you saying you want to ride fast to get better; remember this:
Now, not riding real fast now may not sound like a lot of fun (hell I know it doesn't, i'm your age... i'm impatient etc etc too), and i'm not going to take a high horse either - i've been a bit silly in my short riding time. But reading this, written by someone who knows more about riding then I guess I ever will, shows that I need to get the techniques down pat, and let increased speed flow from there. I think you'll admit to yourself that you're in the same boat.What I have discovered is that 95 percent of my students reach unexpected new levels of confidense after only half a day of classroom plus track training, and half of them can be coached to a high degree of technical skill in 2 days: but only if they ride at 75 percent of their limit. What happens after 75 percent? Everyone agrees, in some fashion, that survival reactions (commonly known as fear) are the ever present barrier to reaching their goals.
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