Death of the two-stroke

[Ixion]

Nothing narrow about the powerband on the Buffalo. It fact it doesn't have one. Power is pretty much linear from 1500rpm up to the red line at 6500

[Mr. Peanut]

My NSR is extremely tractable, simple to repair and given a few more years of development, clean too.

What makes more pollution? An worn out car? Or an Aprilia RS250 with cat converters, used on a semi regular basis...

[Big Dave]

Nothing narrow about the powerband on the Buffalo. It fact it doesn't have one. Power is pretty much linear from 1500rpm up to the red line at 6500

Oh, a 'flatliner'. (with smoke)

[roogazza]

Fair call - but I have ridden all the Mach series Kwakas and a waterbottle. Smelly, smokey, narrow......

Mach 4's ! smelly and smokey sure ! and rattle and clang, but certainly not peaky (unless you took a file to them ?) stock, they only revved to 7500 and I think from memory made more torque than a 750 4 Honda of the day.
Best , most exciting bike I ever owned.

ps can't send a photo , cameras weren't invented then. G.

[craigs288]

And then there was the time I thought I was the man (the 16 year old man) on my brother's PE.
Trying to hold it wide open until it 'runs out of powerband' sounded like a good idea. Doing it in a small quarry was a bad idea.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mach 4's ! smelly and smokey sure ! and rattle and clang, but certainly not peaky (unless you took a file to them ?) stock, they only revved to 7500 and I think from memory made more torque than a 750 4 Honda of the day.
Best , most exciting bike I ever owned.

ps can't send a photo , cameras weren't invented then. G.

The most exciting bike, and yes the peakiest too....was my ZIRTC.
Yikes!
No power at all till around 7500, then best you be pointing in the right direction, cause you soon weren't!!

[Big Dave]

ps can't send a photo , cameras weren't invented then. G.

laffed I did.

[roogazza]

The most exciting bike, and yes the peakiest too....was my ZIRTC.
Yikes!
No power at all till around 7500, then best you be pointing in the right direction, cause you soon weren't!!

Thats got me beat, bet ya wished you still owned it ?

Behave yourself at P Is. this weekend ! cheers G.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thats got me beat, bet ya wished you still owned it ?

Behave yourself at P Is. this weekend ! cheers G.

Mate, that is the ONLY bike I've ever owned that I wish I'd never sold, you're right!

Worse still, I took it with me to Australia and sold it there......

Behave?? Pah.....where's the fun in that?

[TLDV8]

Mach 4's ! smelly and smokey sure ! and rattle and clang, but certainly not peaky (unless you took a file to them ?) stock, they only revved to 7500 and I think from memory made more torque than a 750 4 Honda of the day.
Best , most exciting bike I ever owned.

ps can't send a photo , cameras weren't invented then. G.

H2's were known more for this ?

[Motu]

Most aggressive 2 stroke I've ever ridden was a Husky 250,about '84,a water cooled twinshocker.When it hit the power band the front wheel was in the air,didn't matter if you were only on half throttle,didn't matter how far you got up on the tank or how far you leant over the bars.There was no way this thing could be on the power band in a corner,if it had traction it would just rotate the bike on the rear wheel.We used to hoon around the streets as well as off road.I lost control of another Husky 250 in a crazy wheel stand and went into a Taranaki box thorn hedge.

Scary,but addictive....

[Theatre]

There is nothing quite like holding on to a 2-smoker going nuts in powerband for dear life.

Well put, even on my tiny 150 its fun! For those who say two strokes are horrible learners bikes, garbage. Its two bikes in one, nice and slow puttering around and then crazy when you open her up. Who cares that it sounds like a lawnmower and singlehandedly causes global warming, you'll be having a better time than the guy on the 4 stroke smelling your beautiful 2 smoke

[Crasherfromwayback]

I must say....a 'proper' 250 GP bike is not only a thing of great beauty, it's also an amazing thing to ride.
RS's more so than TZ's.....if any of you get the chance to ride one...do so.

[Lord Derosso]

My first bike was a classic TS185 semi trial. Went everywhere on her.

Remember riding a few GT's in the early 80's. Different type of ride from todays modern superbikes. It was 'real' scary ass to seat stuff with no real handling to mention but still fun ! A cop once told me that the Kawaie H series killed more riders in NZ in the 70's than any other bike due to poor cornering and what was very high speed for it's day. eg H2 750cc and H1 500cc triples. I saw a poster of them lately and they do look so cool still.

Rode with friends in the early 80's and one of the guys had one of the smoke boxes. Another did one one but it got stolen after being on display. You know the guy P.

[Big Dave]

Sorry - still not buying it. even the Mach 4's acceleation pales compared to the ZX14 - the same surge - but it goes 'forever' on the four stroke.

Gimme a big grunty 4 valve dohc any day with 200 ponies and i'll tell ya who'll be smellin' fumes. ;-)