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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    I totally agree that 50kph can be unsafe in the wrong circumstances, so why raise the odds by doing 150???
    Because in the right circumstances, 150 falls inside my tolerance for risk - just as 100 is over it under certain circumstances.

    Put another way: if doing 100 on a given stretch of road carries a similar risk to doing 150 on another stretch of road, what is wrong with doing 150, assuming you'd do 100 on the first?

    Or are you saying that there is no road on New Zealand where you'd feel comfortable doing 150?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    On NZ roads, with NZ road conditions, Our roading system is not designed for this kind of speed with on coming traffic, (our roads here are absolute crap compared to most other countries and there isa reason for this to but thats another thread in itself) and other people on the road... the law being 100kph... (no ifs and or buts including over taking another vehicle) no its not particularly safe under any circumstance you are not the only one on the road and you don't have to make the mistake to be wipped out. And if you believe otherwise...well you have a problem or as big an idiot as the OP was.

    I totally agree that 50kph can be unsafe in the wrong circumstances, so why raise the odds by doing 150???

    In controlled conditions yes, if the road is close for the event, or on a track... go for gold... go hard out... but on the open road and the unperdictable things is not control and anything can happen, you don't only put your life in danger but every other person on the road.
    So, you ride a 1000cc bike because .... ? Tui moment here.

    In fact parts of our roading system were designed for speeds of 100mph (mph, not kph).

    And, compared to the roads of 40 years ago, when the speed limit was 90kph (actually, 55mph) but always exceeded, the roads are superb. Certainly the improvement in the roads exceeds an extra 5kph.

    There's nothing wrong with the roads, ride to the conditions.

    Certainly, sometimes 150kph is unsafe. Sometimes 100kph is unsafe , too. Sometimes even 50kph is unsafe.

    The wise rider judges correct what is an appropriate speed . If 150 is appropriate, it is appropriate, there is no "raising of the odds"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    If this is your attitude then i do actually hope you both loose your licence before you kill your self or worse, kill someone else. I have lost to many friends who thought the were bullet proof on the open road...

    why do i ride a 1000cc? I liked the colour....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    If this is your attitude then i do actually hope you both loose your licence before you kill your self or worse, kill someone else. I have lost to many friends who thought the were bullet proof on the open road...
    Okay, let's break this down, attack it rationally.

    Life is risky. One can die from falling down stairs, swallowing food the wrong way, or from walking into a tree while talking on a cellphone. A friend of mine who frequents this board broke his leg falling from a stationary motorcycle.

    Obviously, risk is analog, not binary. Something isn't "safe" or "risky", it's "acceptably risky" or "too risky".

    So, it becomes a matter of where you draw the line for risk. In a fit of imagination, let's call this personal risk limit the "risk limit."

    If two speeds pose an identical risk (say, 50km/h in Auckland traffic, and 150km/h on the expressway near Hamilton), and the former falls within my risk limit, then they should be equally acceptable (notwithstanding legal issues, like loss of points on license or fines - we're talking physical safety here).

    It looks to me like you've picked 100km/h as some kind of magical number, at which point you give up on rational risk analysis & just lump it in the "too fast" basket. This is irrational, says bad things about your ability to assess risk in general, and sadly indicates that you've become a victim of the speed NAZIs propaganda.
    why do i ride a 1000cc? I liked the colour....
    Why not just repaint your old ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    If this is your attitude then i do actually hope you both loose your licence before you kill your self or worse, kill someone else. I have lost to many friends who thought the were bullet proof on the open road...

    why do i ride a 1000cc? I liked the colour....
    I gave you green rep for your reason to buy the thou. More people should put as much thought into the purchase of their bikes as you did..

    But wholeheartly disagree with your first comment. I can't be seen to outright condone speeding. Riding at pace however is an experience that will result in a wider smile than the one before everytime. You must know yourself how "slow" 150km/hr is on a thou on a sunny sunday afternoon where noone is around and the conditions allow for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz View Post
    But wholeheartly disagree with your first comment. I can't be seen to outright condone speeding.
    Why not? (On a related note - did you know this forum doesn't allow posts that are less than 10 characters long?)

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    Ouuuuch and ooouch dude. as TLD says dont worry about the motor for now , just focus on getting everything else fixed and get her back on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan_bayne View Post
    Why not? (On a related note - did you know this forum doesn't allow posts that are less than 10 characters long?)
    because I am a law abiding honest citizen who is setting an example for the younger generation.



    And I am on 90 points so speeding is evil.

    ps. yes I did know that

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz View Post
    because I am a law abiding honest citizen who is setting an example for the younger generation.
    ... who will no doubt grow up thinking that 100km/h is the magic happy safe speed - if you travel at or under 100, the cutesy crash pixies will save your life when you arse off, but if you travel over 100, the horrible spiky paraplegia demons will get you the moment your attention wanders.

    If you want to be a role model for the younger generation, teach them to think for themselves! Riding according to the conditions (be it at 50 or 150) is just one application of the principle of intellectual independence.

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    holy shit. you wear out your dictionary with that post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyz View Post
    because I am a law abiding honest citizen who is setting an example for the younger generation.



    And I am on 90 points so speeding is evil.
    Hm. And how, pray tell , did you get thsoe 90 points ?
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    i knew i had seen this loser's bike somewhere....


    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...px?id=71701182
    Seems like your abit of a dickhead to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Young dumb and full of cum...

    150km on the open road and you call that safe???? WTF are you smoking... In my eyes you simply broke the law... and you paid for with the loss of your bike and nearly the loss of your life...

    however I'm not going to ream you out every one else has done that for me for sure... But I am glad to see you saying its a wake up call...

    First thing:
    Learn the quirks of any bike before you go mad on it. It took me a week before I took my baby out on the open road... and a month before I was comfortable to take a pillion... (though weather had something to do with the delay... errr) But I was learning the bike, what it could do, what it couldn't do... the way the brakes worked, the throttle, how the bike was setup, ie suspension, gears... ie between 1st and second the gear change is clunky but fine for the rest, something I have to be aware of when



    Each bike has its own quirks, from the way it handles to where the frack is the horn. You can have to exactly the same models and setups and both those bikes will handle ever so differently might not be much but it will be noticable. So if you rebuild it wont be the same bike as such.

    You want to go fast, then please do it on the race track, there are heaps of race days.. heck join a club, learn to do it properly and safely and heck as stated else where the 150km would be considered as slow. But you will learn how to handle your machine.
    I think some of your so called advice is good though what makes you think its ok to degrade someone? fair enough these a time in place everyone knows that, so since when was it your moral duty to act like a cuntSTABLE he was seeking advice as a learning rider not for some knob to insult his riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncan_bayne View Post
    Why not? (On a related note - did you know this forum doesn't allow posts that are less than 10 characters long?)
    Mate I think you have some very valid points. Keep it up its interesting to read. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Hm. And how, pray tell , did you get thsoe 90 points ?
    its not my fault really. Blame suzuki.

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