The rest of the story.

[Motu]

And AMPS were going to throw a CDI into it?? - where do these so called motorcycle mechanics get their diagnostic training....I bet they don't.Do they think motorcycles are somehow ''special'' and no mere car mechanic can teach them to suck eggs? Send them along to an AECS training course to learn some basics - throwing parts at a problem is no way to fix it.

[dawnrazor]

Isn't he too gay to ride a 1000?

Surely you can't be too gay to ride a 1000, eh Dover!!!!

[The Pastor]

Colemans are shit. Ive knowen this for a long long long time....

[dawnrazor]

Colemans are shit. Ive knowen this for a long long long time....

Have you any proof for this sweeping danmnation, and by that I mean can you add anything constructive to the disscussion taking place here, 'cus if not then......

[The Pastor]

Have you any proof for this sweeping danmnation, and by that I mean can you add anything constructive to the disscussion taking place here, 'cus if not then......

yeah went in there and got treated like shit, every time. Not to many dealers I like actually.

[The_Dover]

that's cos you ride the shittest of the shitters and no one wants you making their shop look untidy.

it's not like you have any money to spend there.

[dawnrazor]

yeah went in there and got treated like shit, every time. Not to many dealers I like actually.

why does that not surprise me....

[Ixion]

yeah went in there and got treated like shit, every time. Not to many dealers I like actually.

Well, I get treated like shit whenever I go go into a bike shop. And in theory I could pass $50k over the counter if I wanted to to

(of couse, the sign I always carry " Hey, spare $2 for a cup of coffee " prolly puts them off. Just shows you should never judge a book by its cover. And I have a pocketfull of $2 coins!)

[Crasherfromwayback]

yeah went in there and got treated like shit, every time. Not to many dealers I like actually.

LOL.......and you rang my boss to say I was being a naughty boy eh?

Trying to 'win' some friends maybe?
Finally get a dealership to 'like' you?

I bet they see you 'coming' and all have a wee giggle.

[Lou Girardin]

And AMPS were going to throw a CDI into it?? - where do these so called motorcycle mechanics get their diagnostic training....I bet they don't.Do they think motorcycles are somehow ''special'' and no mere car mechanic can teach them to suck eggs? Send them along to an AECS training course to learn some basics - throwing parts at a problem is no way to fix it.

No, I wanted to swap CDI's. AMPS input was doing the dyno runs. I didn't want them to get involved in stripping things because the bike's under warranty. Colemans said they had no way of testing the advance curve, so we were going to put Pixies into mine, but we found the carb fault first.

Dawnrazor is right. Colemans rep was based on their sales and parts staff, Craig in the workshop was always willing to help if you phoned. The downward slide seems to have started when the balance of ownership changed.
Now they seem happy to lose thousands to save a few bucks. Not that they would have needed to save anything in my case.

[WINJA]

Yup Colemans Suck Allright And That Alan Franklin Thinks The Sun Shines Out His Own Arse Hes Got One Of The Most Fucked Up Attitudes Ive Seen In Any Industry Ever, I Know Spb Is Having A Shit Load Of Problems With His Bike Too , Sadly Some People Think That Suzuki Are Shit Because Of This But Its Not Suzukis Fault If Nz Mechanics Dont Buy The Right Tools And Apply A Parts Swaping Method To Bike Repair, Youve Got Holeshot But I Dont Think There Mechanic Is Any Good Either He Couldnt Fix My Brand New Bike Just Made Excuses , Only Leaves Haldanes For Suzukis , I Know Some Guys Dont Like Red Barons But They Had A Pom Their Called Geof And He Was Really Good And The Service Manager Was Mike Fullerton A Proper Motorcyclist Both Good Guys And I Wish They Were At My Local Suzuki Stealership

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Yup Colemans Suck Allright And That Alan Franklin Thinks The Sun Shines Out His Own Arse Hes Got One Of The Most Fucked Up Attitudes Ive Seen In Any Industry Ever, I Know Spb Is Having A Shit Load Of Problems With His Bike Too , Sadly Some People Think That Suzuki Are Shit Because Of This But Its Not Suzukis Fault If Nz Mechanics Dont Buy The Right Tools And Apply A Parts Swaping Method To Bike Repair, Youve Got Holeshot But I Dont Think There Mechanic Is Any Good Either He Couldnt Fix My Brand New Bike Just Made Excuses , Only Leaves Haldanes For Suzukis , I Know Some Guys Dont Like Red Barons But They Had A Pom Their Called Geof And He Was Really Good And The Service Manager Was Mike Fullerton A Proper Motorcyclist Both Good Guys And I Wish They Were At My Local Suzuki Stealership

Sounds like Suzuki in general WINJA, exactly the same as what you was saying about Honda the other night. How many so called mechanics at dealers can actually rebuild a IL4 motor, or any other for that matter. If their best efforts involve replacing removeable parts, then wheres the point in that? Does the thought at removing the top end or cracking open the gearbox have Suzuki NZ running like little girls squeeling?

[Motu]

No, I wanted to swap CDI's. AMPS input was doing the dyno runs. I didn't want them to get involved in stripping things because the bike's under warranty. Colemans said they had no way of testing the advance curve, so we were going to put Pixies into mine, but we found the carb fault first.

So here we have a customer who modifies and fiddles around with his bike while still under warranty,makes a total fuck up of the job,but doesn't even know it....then he takes it back to the agent and says what's wrong with my bike? Try that with Toyota,Ford or GM....you would of had the door slammed in you face....or if they took the job on you would pay for every last second they spent fixing your fuck up.

[Brian d marge]

And AMPS were going to throw a CDI into it?? - where do these so called motorcycle mechanics get their diagnostic training....I bet they don't.Do they think motorcycles are somehow ''special'' and no mere car mechanic can teach them to suck eggs? Send them along to an AECS training course to learn some basics - throwing parts at a problem is no way to fix it.

Agreed 100 % with, alot of the kiwi ( actually ) mechanics in general I have worked with ...have always spouted on how great they are , but when they get faced with a blown bulb that aint the fuse ,,,, I hear the same cry ...I hate electric , send it down the road to an auto electrician

Throwing parts at an electrical problem is a quick fault isolator AND only when you can spare the parts , and have them on hand

its better to KNow How to fix the problem in the first place

Why for the umpteenth time do these businesses stay afloat .... its friggen difficult running your own shop ..so how can they afford to stuff up the market

Ps Lou what was the cause of the power loss...???? hose missplaced ?? ( carbs and electric often give same problems , but symptoms are slightly different ( I could rebuild a il4 and to a very high standard based on your usage ,,but in a dealership situation ,,,I would be trying to steer clear of doing so, puntures and oil changes thats what I want ...

If a customer has fiddled with a bike , as long as they had given me the history , that would be fine , IF they LIED about the history ,,,as in I never touched it ,,,I would get pissed , abit,,,,BUT still give the customer what they want

The feeling they are being listened to and their concerns are being met .....( even if they are not ,,~)


Stephen

[Lou Girardin]

So here we have a customer who modifies and fiddles around with his bike while still under warranty,makes a total fuck up of the job,but doesn't even know it....then he takes it back to the agent and says what's wrong with my bike? Try that with Toyota,Ford or GM....you would of had the door slammed in you face....or if they took the job on you would pay for every last second they spent fixing your fuck up.

True, And I would have paid without complaint. All I wanted was skilled help.

Do you you say to your customers, "what do you want me to do about it"?
Are you trying to defend them Motu? Do you think their response was OK?
Do tell.