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    Dangerous........Define Dangerous.....

    Went for a ride today....all was good until cresting a hill on the back wheel ..theres a cop... thought about doing a runner but common sese took over...his lights were on before front wheel touched down...a long conversation began about danderous driving......fair go to him as thats his job but when i asked him to define dangerous all i got was that i will receive a summons....at one stage the way he was talking i was walking and was happy enough to be able to get back on bike....were does it say what i was doing was dangerous...am i up against his opinion of dangerous or is there a rule book that says its dangerous...he never gave me a speed reading..just the dangerous thing......?
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    as I understand it, its the cops opinion of dangerious driving...as well as the judges if it goes to court, although they will probably take the opinion of the cop.

    I remember reading the defination of dangerious driving and that was my interpretation of it.

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    From what I was told from the cop that let me away with it and just gave me a ticket for 120kph it is a dangerous driving offence, He could have made me walk also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokin View Post
    From what I was told from the cop that let me away with it and just gave me a ticket for 120kph it is a dangerous driving offence, He could have made me walk also.

    bad luck mate.
    Bugger...............this guy must have been having a bad day...i was only doing about 120/130....
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    done to death but;

    (b)Drives or causes a motor vehicle to be driven on a road at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person; or

    it's pretty obvious what the outcome will be. if the argument is not that there was NO wheelie, just that the agreed wheelie was dangerous, then you're probably outta luck

    http://www.netlaw.co.nz/Crime.cfm

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    say your not guilty, save up for next couple of months for thee fine ,get a lawyer, cause you may lose your licenee too, fuck you should have done a runner

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    done to death but;

    (b)Drives or causes a motor vehicle to be driven on a road at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person; or

    it's pretty obvious what the outcome will be. if the argument is not that there was NO wheelie, just that the agreed wheelie was dangerous, then you're probably outta luck

    http://www.netlaw.co.nz/Crime.cfm
    Cheers Marty....says it all really eh....will just plead guilty and say i had the wind in my sails on such a beaut day and was a bit over exurberant...sorry your honour................... hope the license doesnt go eh........
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    unfortunately a conviction for dangerous carries a minimum of 6 months disqual.

    and i meant to say *agreed wheelie was or was not dangerous*.

    i'd defend it. nothing to lose. defend it either on

    1. there was no wheelie your honour
    2. any raising of the front wheel was caused by the shite rear factory suspension on the TL (get a friendly suzuki mechanic) coupled with the crappy road surface/rise
    3. that the wheelie was under full control, in fact it wasn't even a wheelie, more a roll-on of power from the mighty v-twin causing the front wheel to rise (as in motogp/superbikes - show a superbike video to drive home the point) and was not dangerous at any time to anyone.

    personally, i'd go for #3. #2 shows that you didn't have control, you probably stuffed #1 by your long conversation with the 5-0

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    best of luck to you mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by marty View Post
    done to death but;

    (b)Drives or causes a motor vehicle to be driven on a road at a speed or in a manner which, having regard to all the circumstances, is or might be dangerous to the public or to a person; or
    Damn... "is or might be dangerous".
    Looks like riding a motorcycle constitutes dangerous driving.
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    sucks bro, if id ur bike yayah haha see ya
    mmm so what you get a ticket ?! i dont think you said what actually happened as in outcome?!
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    yeah uhh i think id go with number 3, you could say that you had to slip the bike down a gear as to carry on in the climb?! which caused a slight increase in front wheel lift!!!
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    Did think about it and have done it in the past but common sense...or is it getting older made me pull over....the result was a bit of paper telling me im off to court......will receive due date in the post...at worst it would be worth pleading not guilty just to put it off until the good weather goes away
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    dude , your bike is fuck*&^ nice.. just saw it in your profile where i thought ud have 1.
    wheres your number plate kept?!
    yeah mmm dont know what its like down your ways i suppose it mite be harder to get away a
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    Quote Originally Posted by adiddy View Post
    yeah uhh i think id go with number 3, you could say that you had to slip the bike down a gear as to carry on in the climb?! which caused a slight increase in front wheel lift!!!
    I'd try and stress the point that you were cresting a hill within the speed limit as opposed to hoisting a huge minger at 130kph.

    "The bike's rather light at the front m'lud and sometimes the front wheel lifts. It's a daily occurrence and is under full control. Would I get penalised for dangerous driving if I drove over one of our highway's numerous potholes and one of the wheels came of the ground? What's the difference? I appreciate it may have looked rather frightening to someone not used to motorcycles m'lud but the same could be said about leaning over to go round a corner. "

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