I can't get my bike certified

[slimjim]

I'm not to sure how long MAF keeps the records for to be honest so I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

yup reckon your buying the bike should have been better checked out first, as going back now seven years, record's are not helded by MAf, nor the shipping company, you have waited to long, and why bring a bike in to nz, and never get it reg or wof, seem's dodgee to begin with

[DEMONICST8]

The bikes not dodgy, its completly legit but the powers that be are making things very difficult for me.
All I want to do is ride my bloody bike!

[Paul in NZ]

The bikes not dodgy, its completly legit but the powers that be are making things very difficult for me.
All I want to do is ride my bloody bike!

It's not the govts fault mate - it's the dodgy cunts that steal bikes and cars, ship them to other countries that are at fault. Without that you would not need all the laws to stop it.

[The_Dover]

fuck it, put a plate from something else on it and ride it.

[DEMONICST8]

It's not the govts fault mate - it's the dodgy cunts that steal bikes and cars, ship them to other countries that are at fault. Without that you would not need all the laws to stop it.

I have the ownership papers and a letter from the previous owner and a signed letter from VINZ stating that the chassis number is in tact. SO IT IS THE GOVTS BLOODY FAULT!!!!!!

[Ixion]

Keep nagging at LTSA. Try to get a different pertson each time. This is (apparently) always a problem. 9 out of 10 people at LTSA will not want to help you at all and will make everything hellish difficult. Then the 10th will be helpful and it all gets resolved in a woof.

Also, try talking to a certifier. Worst case, you get it completely recertified (same deal as if you'd built it up out of parts) , cost a few hundred bucks but may be simplest in the end.

[oldrider]

As you gather supporting data and documentation, start climbing the LTSA ladder of command until you find someone with the gall to believe they have some "authority" and then their pride will give them the balls to make a decision.

Public servants live by rule books, they are not employed to "think" and make decisions, that privilege is reserved only for those in "high" places and they earn that from the "time" they spend in the service, "not" how good they are at providing the service!

So just keep taking your supporting evidence and your case further up the ladder until you find one who feels he has the "power" to say "yes"!

Be prepared for a tall ladder, public servants with balls are a rare breed!

you just have to know the system, common sense is irrelevant. Good bloody luck, you "will" need it! Cheers John.

[Paul in NZ]

I have the ownership papers and a letter from the previous owner and a signed letter from VINZ stating that the chassis number is in tact. SO IT IS THE GOVTS BLOODY FAULT!!!!!!

Hey don't get snotty with me or the Govt. There are some very clear and published guidelines and if the guy that had imported it had registered it when he arrived or if you had checked the situation or sought advice before you purchased it you would have avoided all the drama.

It's a plain fact that hundreds of bikes get stolen in places like the UK every week and are packed into containers and sent overseas to places like NZ. Our Govt and others tightened up the rules to try and prevent these bikes being registered and thus reduce the demand.

Ownership papers are easily forged or stolen and a letter? Without the official govt stamp saying the bike has been deregistered in the country it was last used in for export thats pretty well useless. I went through all this myself and while you may be lucky enough to find someone to help you, I sure wasn't.

Good luck to you with it and I'm sorry you seem pissed off with me but believe it or not I'm trying to be helpful.

Paul N

last post from me on this subject - good luck with your bike - hope it works out.

[DEMONICST8]

Sorry if you got the wrong impression Paul, I'm not pissed off at you at all, your advice has been all good.
I understand about bikes getting stolen overseas and shipped around the world but my bike is completely legal.
It just annoys me that because of thieving pricks around the world I cant ride my bike.

[limbimtimwim]

What port did the container arrive in?

[DEMONICST8]

Auckland, early August 2000
From Switzerland

[vamr]

...as a "sratch" model

...pigsty?

[FROSTY:Me]

Dude--save yaself a shit load of hassles--gimme a yeodle.
i know a man that will be able to help you sort out this mess

[popelli]

[QUOTE=DEMONICST8;786433 what I am missing according to Land Transport are the MAF or Customs documents stating how and when the bike entered the country. I've been told that without these I cannot get the bike certified/registered in New Zealand.
[/QUOTE]

without the customs documents you are pretty well bollixed

what they really wanted to know is who paid the tax when the bike was imported

this is the reason they are being so damn awkward nothing to do with stolen bikes its another method of ensuring that each bike brought into the country has tax paid on it

however the 2 year restriction on selling is because no tax was paid on the bike

you need to prove that the bike has not changed ownership for that 2 year period

I suspect the seller is being economical with the truth and there was never any paperwork to start with

The bike was probably smuggled in the container load of personal effects and was not declared hence there is no paperwork

[bluninja]

I really sympathise with you. I'm now 3 weeks in to trying to register my RSVR in the UK. Yes I know I should have registered it when the bike arrived May 2004, but I was not financially able to insure the bike.

I brought it into NZ 2001 and went through the regsitration rigmarole, which was simple by comparison to the UK.

I have all the documentation...even the original Pre delivery inspection sheet and tax disc from the UK and a full audit trail of reg and dereg. However they still wanted a certificate of homologation, even though it was a UK spec bike bought in the UK. My lastest hurdle is that my insurance company won't insure it on the VIN, so I've had to do it on the old UK reg and hope the paperpusher allows this through (yes I have to insure it before they will give me a rego)

BTW I still have my NZ deed of undertaking for when I imported my bike.