70km/h on learners?

[Kendog]

Is it when its 6.59pm and you have to be home by 7.00pm for Shortland street? (rule would apply on weekdays only)

Mrs KD

[Lorax]

I'm gonna bloody watch this thread in ernest. What is it what is it what is it what is it what is it?!!!!

I've got an exemption for riding home after working in a bar but speed exemptions don't exist (can just see it now: Reason for Exemption Application? I always sleep in and sometimes have no milk so have to have toast which takes longer in the mornings.

What is it what is it what is it what is it?!?!?!?!

[M1CRO:Me]

Incidentally, here is a challenge for those that think they know the law.

There is one exception to the 70kph limit on a class 6L. One occasion when a learner may do 100kph, quite legally. Anyone know what it is?

What about when you are taking your restricted test?
Edit - Can I have a chocolate fish now please

[Shadows]

What about when you are taking your restricted test?

That would render the test a failure.

[M1CRO:Me]

That would render the test a failure.

Not if I was on the motorway it wouldnt

[Shadows]

Not if I was on the motorway it wouldnt

You must remain within the terms of your license on the test, anything else is illegal and will cause you to fail.

[M1CRO:Me]

You must remain within the terms of your license on the test, anything else is illegal and you fail.

Sorry dude, but there is a legal exemption where you can do 100km/hr WHILST on a learners BUT you are taking the restricted licence test for a Class 6R licence
Edit - Came in around 1999, just when I got out

[Shadows]

Sorry dude, but there is a legal exemption where you can do 100km/hr WHILST on a learners BUT you are taking the restricted licence test for a Class 6R licence
Edit - Came in around 1999, just when I got out

I stand corrected....

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libra...its=6#JUMPDEST_

[Ixion]

Yep, choccy fish for Mr M1CRO

The one time a learner can leaglly rip along at 100kph is when taking the restricted test .

Land Transport (Driver Licensing) Rule 1999
Part 4 Learner licences, restricted licences, and full licences (r 15 to r 19)

[(d)in the case of a Class 6L licence, where the holder is riding a motorcycle, the holder—

(i)must display on the vehicle an “L” plate as specified in clause 66; and
(ii)must not—

(A)drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am; or
(B)drive at a speed exceeding 70 km/h, unless taking the restricted licence test for a Class 6R licence under clause 48(5); or
(C)drive a motorcycle that has a total piston displacement exceeding 250 cm3; or
(D)carry another person on the motorcycle or in a sidecar attached to the motorcycle]

Assuming the tester asks you to ride on a motorway or open road of course. Of course, as a learner you will have stuck scrupulously to the 70kph limit, and have had no chance to obtain experience of 100kph riding, so you will probably kill yourself, But at least you won't get a ticket. Damn stupid rule.

[M1CRO:Me]

no problems... part of my previous occupation
and I said "got out".. NOT "came out" lol

[Shadows]

no problems... part of my previous occupation
and I said "got out".. NOT "came out" lol

I was wondering where you "got out" from! Now I have a completely different picture in my head lol.

[Ixion]

Actually, despite all their buggering about to cover the moped thing, I think there is still a loophole that in theory would allow the holder of a class 6L to ride at 100kph without breaching the conditions of the licence (though at risk of falling foul of other laws)

[(c)in the case of a Class 1L or Class 6L licence, where the holder is riding a moped, the holder—
(i)must display on the vehicle an “L” plate as specified in clause 66; and
(ii)must not drive between the hours of 10 pm and 5 am:]

Note, no 70kph restriction, and no passenger restriction . Now, a moped MAY legally take a passenger , if a seat and footrests are fitted (practically, may be another matter). And the law requires that a moped should not be designed to be able to go faster than 50kph. But it is not actually an offence to do so, if somehow you can persuade the moped to do it. So, if you could find a long enough open road hill (not a motorway), you could legally ride your moped , two up, at 100kph, on a learners 6L licence (complete with L plate attached). Assuming it is not between the hours of 10pm and 5am. Not sure I'd want to explain that to a judge, though.Damn stupid law.

And why is a motorbike 6L forbidden to take a passenger, but a moped 6L may? Explain that one , then.

[M1CRO:Me]

Too hard for this time of the night - unless you had a nap during the day?
Have RRRS course to do in the morning, so off to beddie bye for this one

[Drum]

So if you have followed all the conditions of your learner license, the first time you would have ridden at 100 km/h is during your restricted test??

Genius at work.

[Kendog]

The other dog and I were discussing this the other day about scooters, if it could do 100ks, and you only need a car licence to ride one, you could have a car learner licence and do 100kphs, but not on like a GN with motorcycle learner licence.
All hypothetical of course, but I agree that our laws on this stuff need to be looked at seriously, I mean a 15 year old can jump in a car (potentially dangerous weapon) with his 18 year old cousin and drive on the open road at 100kmph and kill both of them and a van load of kids, but a 15 year old on a GN can only do 70kmph on open road and only kill himself as he gets overtaken by every impatient bastard in a car.
Again, the point of my rant seems lost, but there is a point there somewhere!
Mrs KD.