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  1. #16
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    JS, My apologies if my poll caused you to subconciously think you were jinxed and therefore expect a crash.

    I purposefully worded it for the last 12 months, not ever. "I have never crashed" is a statement that can turn false. "I had not crashed in the 12 months prior to taking that poll" is set in concrete and is in no way capable of causing a jinx.

    As you could see from the poll, it is NORMAL to have no (or very few) crashes in a twelve month period. If you are outside the standard deviation then maybe you do need to ask why.

    Do learn from this though. The neutral thing is a good example. Another is that you need to understand your mental state when riding. Exam week means a lot is on your mind, probably tired and a little stressed so you need to concentrate even more than normal.

    Glad you're ok though!

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    イルカの精液は愛する。

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    ohh ...stats ...

    you are more likely to have an "accident" on a motorcycle in the first 6 months of riding (stands to reason) AND in the 5th to 6th year of riding..

    guess we all stop paying attention after a while.

    Still ... doing 60k down a hill in neutral is just mad ... i would recommend finding someone that knows how to ride and asking for lessons in how not to be a dumb ass.

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    crashing is just part of the learning process.

    Just make sure you do your learning at low speed.

    Never ever be in neutral when you're not stationary. Very Light braking into a downhill corner is fine as long as you are going very slow. If you are not going slow into a wet downhill corner then...

    Decent tyres are still no help in the wet, have to ride to the conditions.

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    6 Bins in 12 months...?

    Handling skills
    Mental Skills
    Self control skills

    One of these needs a bit of tweaking in your case I think.. Have a good think about where you are headed with your bike riding. The stats are allready against you if you don't..
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    Im going to try and be positive because I very vividly remember my first bike and some of the dumb stuff I did.

    Can I suggest that you sell the road bike, and buy a dirt bike? Dirt bikes are great for learning skills and particularly stuff like throttle control and traction "Sense". I havent owned a dirtbike in many years, but I think that because my first bike was a dirt capable bike the lessons it taught me have helped me to this day.

    You might consider even a 4 stroke dual purpose bike. only drawback to these is that they are bloody tall and a bit intimidating to a shorty like me.

    Also, you need to practise more, off the Kings highway. Practice your braking drills, your turning, do the cone slalom thing, all that.

    When you can afford it get some decent tyres. (I put Pirelli City Dragons on the 400F, and they are surprisingly good. Surprisingly cheap, too).

    Oh, and I believe a few people mentioned the engine braking thing? thats a good tip, that.

    Try not to let it get you down though it is depressing as hell.... believe me, I know.
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    Ohhh ... MORE stats ....

    If you learn to ride on a dirt bike, you are less likely to have an accident on a road bike.

    it's true ... look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarlockNZ View Post
    Ohhh ... MORE stats ....
    If you learn to ride on a dirt bike, you are less likely to have an accident on a road bike.it's true ... look it up.


    I looked it up, and I still dont care.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppetMaster View Post
    I looked it up, and I still dont care.


    6 offs, your 7th could be your last. Catch a bus.
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    Most of the advice has already been given. The obvious neutral down a hill but I see that no one has picked up on the fact his tyres were probably cold. Adding further to the loss of traction that happened when braking.

    I'll also add here that once sometime after having my license and first 250 I let my bike coast in neutral down a fairly steep hill. (to see how fast it would go without power) so i'm guilty of doing this also.

    Depending on the angle of the hill you are on you will find certain gears keep you at roughly the speed limit, no need for braking. Then when you do need to brake you won't need to brake as hard. Also as has been mentioned take it a bit easier in the wet expecially going down hills.

    Expect and be prepared for the unexpected Ride safe learn from your early mistakes and take advice/talk to other riders.

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    Dude, it's been said, but WTF were you coasting in neutral ? I mean was there some reason for it? I think most riders would have trouble on a downhill wet corner in neutral. I know I would.
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    Maybe you should start by driving a car for a few years to get the basics....

    Surely someone who lives in q'town & is into snowboarding should understand the concept of engine braking?

    Unless you are one of those dickheads who gets to the bottom of the ski hill and wonders why there car smells funny? (but im pretty sure that is limited to the auckland drivers at ruapehu).

    Dont go upgrading that FXR anytime soon.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Dude, it's been said, but WTF were you coasting in neutral ? I mean was there some reason for it? I think most riders would have trouble on a downhill wet corner in neutral. I know I would.
    Saving on engine wear?

































    Hehe, you said dude.

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    Hmm, I laughed at the time. Still smiling now.

    Yes, it was pretty stupid to coast downhill in the wet, fast, with cold tyres (hadn't thought about that one either),

    But come on, I'm 17, do you all expect me to behave with calculated reason in every situation? Sure, I don't want to become another statistic, and I think that most of you take me for a complete wally who can't turn round a cone. (then again, maybe I think I just know too much)

    I'd appreciate advice more than "Stop riding a bike, you'll kill yourself", but being in Queenstown it's a bit harder to find someone to 'mentor' me, so to speak (although there was that guy who was riding an MV down my road the other day, he'd probably wanna hang with me).

    In hindsight, I think that I was in a particular mood for crashing.

    And MrPeanut, can you a) stop typing in chinese, or b) give me a site that'll translate the whole sentence? Much appreciated.

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