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    Some reflections from a young guy - then till now

    I first rode my 2 wheeler bmx without training wheels when i was about 2 or 3 from memory. My cousin, who is 6 days older than myself, and I basically grew up together. By the ripe old age of about 4 we were alreaedy making little jumps to go over on our little bmx's...two wheeled action was in our blood. We could kill whole days pedalling around our yards pretending we were on motorbikes.

    Hit the teenage years, well into freestyle BMX, hanging out for that magical year when you can be allowed to start captaining cars around on the road legally, of course being the naughty little buggers we were, we had both learnt to drive before we were 12, but this was different. This was freedom. Neither of our parents would let us ride motorbikes yet. There was the old attempt at even getting scooters and go-peds, however each time to no avail. They were just a total no no.

    Then came the first full time jobs and decent money. Suddenly i was a youngish adult(19) and I could really do what I wanted. I first helped my cousin find a bike, he had more money than I did you see since he had been working as an apprentice sparkie since he was 15, but i stayed in school the whole way and thus he had a bit more time to get the funds up.
    We found him a cosmetically worn but mechanically mint little CBR250rr, and i took it out for the odd ride. Thus the biking bug was bitten.

    It was about this time I joined KB. I did not have a bike, and from memory one of my first posts was asking which bike i should get. I also started meeting some really brilliant people including a few who had transitioned over from the car scene just like i had.

    Within about a month, i had bought my own ZXR250c, and bought all the basic safety gear. Thus began a long and very awarding new experience.
    It started off with rides out to maraetai/clevedon etc. at what can only be described as learner speeds, since , well i was! I will never forget the feeling of the zxr when i first got it. I came from driving pretty decent cages, however this little thing sorta made my mind go back from the acceleration (them were the days).

    Many rides later going down the coast, up north, to kaiaua and many other routes and i was well on the way to knwing this bike inside and out.

    The first little crash came one sunday night when i was coming back thorugh twilght road racing, it the dark on a damp road with a tinted visor. I just didnt see the corner, and by the time i was in it, the bike just couldn't hold the lean i was trying to put it through. I was lucky, wearing just jeans i only got a sore hip, and the bike only suffered fairing road rash. This was the first major lesson in self preservation, and saw a bit of an end to being quite so cocky and bullet proof.

    The send crash was pretty pathetic, I was riding at 20kph looking behind me for N4CR and R6 Kid when i rode into a ditch...no bike damage, but i looked pretty stupid when the boysall came riding around the corner. Some of you will remember that ride.

    By this point I had learnt the bike really well, could shred the sides of the tyres and was comfortable chaisng some of the quicker boys ont heir 600's and thou's, was happy getting wheelies on to balance point (not too frequently, mostly they went up for 10m and slowly dropped back down!) and good old rolling stoppies. It had got to the point where i could make the bike do what i wanted to, but the power was lacking and my 93kg on it really was a limit in the handling department.

    It was at this time I saw the gsxr 600, and decided it would be a worthy upgrade and would hopefully be a loyal and worthy steed. I didn't yet have my full, but was close enough that it could sit in the garage, and I could wait in eager anticipation.

    Two weeks of defensive driving classes (where i just happened to be booked in with Tristan aka N4CR, and between us we had quite a laugh) and one riding test and I was legal on the gixxer.

    That brings me to this last weekend. I was pretty keen on doing the coro loop ride, however like an idiot had thought it was sunday, and thus missed it. It was that afternoon that I heard about Bruce and Darryl via the grapevine. That put a real dampener on the day, as does the serious injury or death of any KB'r, SB'r or riding buddy.

    Nonetheless, i headed out on the 250 learner ride organised by Maverick, and had a bit of fun with Gremlin heading out to Kaiua. It was not a fast pased ride at all, just a chance to feel the new bike out and play with the suspension a bit. Got through the ride and came home and started to read the forums and threads about the recent crashes and injuries. Thus started a new line of thinking.

    I love my riding, i love my bikes. I love the company and the people. I do not think i have ever met a crowd of blokes and girls that are more generous, friendly and good fun than since i started riding. KB'r and SB'r has been bloody good. However I now find myself asking myself whether this is worth the risk.

    Dont get me wrong, i am not saying i want to throw in the rag and stop riding, however i have reached a point where i am doing some real soul searching. I am 22, have finally got a bloody well paying job, have a beautiful wife and my whole life ahead of me.

    I am a person who, once i get into something, dive in head first. Such is biking. Many people on here are the same. How many of you have reached the point where you really truthfully ask yourself whether the riding is worth the risk, and what did you decide and why?
    I starte from the beginning, because it shows that bikes are just something that i am insanely passionate about, and shows that this is really something running through my mind a lot.

    At the end of the day, like Motobob, Inline4, UncleB, Loosebruce and Darryl as well as all the others who were just hurt or killed too early in life.. THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I.

    Let the thoughts flow.
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    A great post Brett.

    Only you can decide what is the right thing to do, let your head and heart guide you.

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    have similar feelings at present Brett, UncleB was mentoring me and being new he was my fricking riding hero. After reading last nights post i was devastated and was thinking the consequences on my loved ones if that had been me. Im 28, 3 boys and loving wife. Lots to live for.... i thought maybe i should give it up, i mean UncleB was a long time rider whom had plenty of experience, talked about saftey the whole time and about good riding technique, yet he was plucked off this earth in an afternoon, so wondered how an inexperienced noob like me would have any chance.
    Took today off work to think about UncleB and the few things he had talked to me about.
    Spoke to my wife about riding and we both agreed that accidents happen - her reccomendation was life insurance so at least the family will benefit financialy(oh the love!!!!).
    Got out on the bike tonight for a quiet little ride around some back streets(pillion pegs down for UncleB) and felt as safe as i had before.
    Reality is i should not ride anymore - but the pure enjoyment of riding that UncleB had talked about is something i want to experience, for me i think the best thing i can do to keep myself safe is to ride to the conditions and wear all the gear at all times. I cant avoid a freak accident but i can prepare and try and limit its chances as much as possible. I will keep riding and learning for now.

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    I'm pretty cut up about what's happened. But I know that it was riding and racing bikes that made these guys great, and gave us all a common ground and a purpose. And these events have only made me more determined to take over where they left off. I will definitely start attempting wheelies and stoppies more often now, in the pursuit of being as good as Daryl and Bruce. And I will continue my quest to be the best racer that I can be, as was the unfinished quest that both Daryl and Bruce were on. The riding is what let their characters shine through the most. I'm only more determined now to be like them.

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    I try to live day by day without a grand plan in mind... enjoying as it comes and not get hung up with regrets.

    If I die in a crash then be it, at least it would be doing something I enjoyed as opposed to in a sickbed unable to take care of myself.

    This may be cynicle and nihilistic but that's how I am.

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    A few years ago, my father's best friend and business partner of 14 years - Pete - was killed in a freak bike accident. He took a corner too fast, stood the bike up, brought it to a stop and as he put his foot down on the gravel verge, slipped and fell into the road. The mate he was out with rode into him and killed him instantly.

    I wasn't riding bikes at the time, but I watched my father go through the same soul searching. My sister and I, then both keen wannabe bikers, thought he wouldn't ride again, but he got back on the bike almost instantly. One of his first rides was to pick up Pete's bike from the cop-shop where it had been taken after the accident. The hardest thing for my father to take was the condition of the bike; undamaged other than a few cosmetic scratches where it had tipped over.

    Six years on, my dad's still riding (and occasionally crashing) bikes, does track-days and does more miles in a year than most.

    In the end, you have to accept that, as Bull said, freak accidents do happen. Prepare for them as best you can - set your family up financially for one - but only give up something you love if the consequence of persuing that hobby is worse than the act of abandoning it.

    For my father, riding a bike is his escape. It's his relaxation. It's his expression of living.

    I guess it helped him that my mother and both of us kids supported his decision to continue riding. Ultimately, you have to do what makes you happy. If you have the support of your family and you decide to still get on out there, then you've made the right choice. If you have the support of your family and decide to give up two wheels, you've made the right choice.

    Good luck and good choosing.

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    You know Danny, the big guy can take any of us out any time he likes.

    And you could give up riding and get run over by a bus tomorrow.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    yeah I've had those thoughts, funnily enough, cagers nearly knocking me off makes me more determined, it's like 'yeah see that ya missed me, I'm more nimble and just plain better than you!'
    the main time i have those thoughts is hearing terrible news as has been posted over the weekend, and thinking about the impact it is having on so many people, but then those people are cared about by such a large community because of who they were, which is a result of taking that risk and riding bikes, and the best way to clear those thoughts is to go start your bike up and go for a ride, hopefully realising why you're doing it, but then if the buzz just isn't there, then maybe it is time to let it go, or maybe get into trail biking, less cages, more everything else
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    I guess I'm a little older (but not necessarily wiser ), I was a late starter - didn't start riding motorbikes until I was about 22, started racing about 3 years later and I'm still at it another 8 years later.

    I've had some bad crashes that make me think about what I'm doing. I've taken time out, but always got back on. It's just something I can't imagine myself not doing.

    I've had friends hurt and killed, and that makes you think too. At the end of the day though, they were doing what they loved. And that's one reason why I keep riding. I know they wouldn't want me to stop.

    Do what you want. Understand the risks, and if you're happy with them go for it and ride. And get life insurance
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    Quote Originally Posted by vamr View Post
    I try to live day by day without a grand plan in mind... enjoying as it comes and not get hung up with regrets.

    If I die in a crash then be it, at least it would be doing something I enjoyed as opposed to in a sickbed unable to take care of myself.

    This may be cynicle and nihilistic but that's how I am.
    Nihilism is fine.

    But please make an effort not to take anyone with you when you finally check out.

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    yeah it does make you think aye,, well personally i dont think ive ever felt so alive quite the way i do when im riding, so if i die doing it at least im dying doing what really made me feel at one with the reality of this life.
    I lost my licence and i havent riddin all month!!!- YEAH RIGHT

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    You should never trade the quality of life for the quantity of life.
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    Anyone who rides motorcycles, and keeps riding long enough is very probably going to die doing it. And like as not , die in a horrible messy fashion

    Go check out some of the blood and gore crash pics that have been posted. The ones with riders ripped in half, and heads amputated and so on.

    And now stop and think that if you keep riding, sooner or later that'll be you in those pictures.

    If you can't stare down the face of that reality, dispassionately and objectively, and admit that you are going to die - give up biking. Now

    If you can't picture your loved ones (mother/wife/partner/kids) having to go to the morgue to identify your mangled bloody dismembered body - give up biking. Now.

    If you are a parent and you can't face up to admitting that your kids are going to grow up without their father/mother - give up biking. Now.

    Sorry. That's the way it is. Reality.

    Not inevitable. There are bikers who manage to ride for a lifetime and never get hurt. But the odds are way against you. You can push the odds in your favour, but most bikers aren't willing to do that.

    So, odds are, you're going to die. Most bikers do a pretty good job of refusing to face that fact. Which is partly why they die.

    If you can't face it - give up biking. Now.

    Me, I'm just going to keep riding. Until I die. I expect that'll be tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Nihilism is fine.

    But please make an effort not to take anyone with you when you finally check out.
    Thats the general idea... sociopathic I am not.

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    there is much wisdom from someone so young this last weekend from hell makes me think is it really worth it?.

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