Accident - losing licence?

[jonbuoy]

I took myself out a few years ago, good cop came to see me in hospital saw the state of me and said he could do me for careless but wasn't going to. So yeah you can be done even if no-one else was involved.

[Firefight]

the rider in this story was prosecuted when he recovered, charged with dangerous, but reduced to carless for a gulity plea.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=20720

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[lb99]

Well, that'll be a cop behaving like an arsehole then, won't it?

Dave

yeah, I guess so, and I have to admit most of them are pretty fair. You'd think he might have wondered why the bike was parked through the right rear door of a honda accord though.

I never got paid either, the guy was a recividist disqualified driver who got sent to jail when he finally turned up to court, because of that the judge ordered no reperations because there was no way he could have paid. I could have pursued it civally, but whos got the money to do that.
On the bright side, I have been an insurance freak ever since.

Theres been the odd time I have gotton too loose and needed an ambo ride, and the cops have usually been really fair. I could have been nailed for careless/dangerous/reckless plenty of times

[McJim]

That's a bit bizarre - I got knocked off my bike and badly smacked my knee by someone running a red light and the police WOULDN'T EVEN TAKE A FUCKEN STATEMENT THE FOLLLOWING DAY....said they were too fucken busy or something. Leg is permanently damaged - I can walk on it but I used to be a triathlete and racing cyclist - might as well sell the pushies and buy a Ducati eh?

Strange country we live in.

[Finn]

Women shouldn't be allowed to drive anyway. The vote was enough, now look what they're doing to us.

[Edbear]

I could have been nailed for careless/dangerous/reckless plenty of times

And riding an unregistered bike, too? You're a worry, mate!

[Toaster]

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Yep... well this ain't the UK dude. Sounds like she got charged with careless driving causing injury... carries a mandatory 6 month disqualification period. bummer huh..... you can also get jail time if the injuries and circumstances are severe enough.... aka 'aggravating factors'.

[Ixion]

I see no unfairness with this practice.

A passenger entering a motorcar has the right to expect that the driver will drive in a reasonably safe and prudent fashion. If as a result of the driver's carelessness or negligence , the passenger is injured, it is both proper and logical for the law to hold the driver accountable.

[moko]

Bit of a sweeping statement saying she wouldn`t have got nicked in the U.K. as you`ve given no details of what she was doing,any previous convictions or much else.Slide the back of your car out on an empty road here at 3 a.m. and get seen by a Cop and you will indeed get nicked for driving without due care e.t.c.She had an accident,there`s no such thing,someone causes these they dont just happen no matter how "minor".Obviously not so minor that the police didn`t bother to get involved,whether they saw it themselves or again it wasn`t so minor that someone didn`t think it worth calling them.
Here also if she`d had an accident where someone was injured she`d be required by law to report it to the Police and not leave the scene,I believe Hospitals are obliged to report any injury caused through criminal action(which leaving the scene of an accident involving personal injury is) so she may have been nabbed that way if it`s the same in N.Z.
Last accident I had,admittedly things have changed a lot since then,the Cops turned a blind eye while the guy who picked me up threatened to rip the head off of the guilty driver,told me"think he`s listening to him a bit closer than he`d listen to us",then they booked him anyway.

[rok-the-boat]

I took myself out a few years ago, good cop came to see me in hospital saw the state of me and said he could do me for careless but wasn't going to. So yeah you can be done even if no-one else was involved.

This sums up my thoughts. The details of the accident are irrelevant. This does not happen in other countries - I have never heard of such ridiculousness, unless you are doing something totally illegal - like running from the cops. I have seen a few accidents amongst my mates in the UK and the cops never came after them like here - once the insurance is settled, all is OK (unless there is wayward madness involved). Accidents happen, which is why we have the word, 'accident'. Like I said, it seems that if you fall off here, you'd better fake being OK even if you are not. To me, it sounds like another way for NZ plod to collect his taxes.

[Sniper]

This sums up my thoughts. The details of the accident are irrelevant. This does not happen in other countries - I have never heard of such ridiculousness, unless you are doing something totally illegal - like running from the cops. I have seen a few accidents amongst my mates in the UK and the cops never came after them like here - once the insurance is settled, all is OK (unless there is wayward madness involved). Accidents happen, which is why we have the word, 'accident'. Like I said, it seems that if you fall off here, you'd better fake being OK even if you are not. To me, it sounds like another way for NZ plod to collect his taxes.

Im sorry to be so blunt, but thas a typical wingy English attitude. She fucked up and hurt someone, should she get away with it? What about if it was your kid, would you just say to her, "Oh well, guess you learnt your lesson", or would you want her to make right any way she could? What is it with people thinking that if they fuck up, they shouldnt be punished? Bet she wont bloody do it again will she.


Somehow, this story confirms my theory on the attitude of the English (Not all mind you)

[RT527]

yeah right, I got hit by some dick who turned right infont of me with out looking, the first thing the first cop on the scene did was give me a ticket for no rego, while I was being loaded into an ambulance, even before he had established who caused what, or even spoken to the other driver. as soon as he stopped his car he went and checked out the plate on my bike. Even the witnesses were having a go at him

Well unfortunatly for you if it wasnt registered then it shouldnt have been on the road , and if it wasnt on the road then there might not have been an accident......But having said that , it`s not that good for police public relations if the cop is going to be that mean about it all, and if ya ask me I`d say hes biased towards bikes...bit like when theres an accident between a truck and another vehicle ,CVIU will arrive and do there darndest to find something wrong with the truck even if you did nothing wrong and the other party is fully responsible.

[MSTRS:Me]

Somehow, this story confirms my theory on the attitude of the English (Not all mind you)

Oh, and just to set the record straight...they are not forgiven for Culloden.

[RT527]

yeah, I guess so, and I have to admit most of them are pretty fair. You'd think he might have wondered why the bike was parked through the right rear door of a honda accord though.

I never got paid either, the guy was a recividist disqualified driver who got sent to jail when he finally turned up to court, because of that the judge ordered no reperations because there was no way he could have paid. I could have pursued it civally, but whos got the money to do that.
On the bright side, I have been an insurance freak ever since.

Theres been the odd time I have gotton too loose and needed an ambo ride, and the cops have usually been really fair. I could have been nailed for careless/dangerous/reckless plenty of times

Bloody heck, should have read right through the posts before posting my previous....sounds like neither of you should have been on the road lol.

more so the cage driver than you for a small piece of paper that doesnt change how you drive or the condition of the car.

now I really do think that cop was just being a tax collector and an arsehole.

[RT527]

Yep... well this ain't the UK dude. Sounds like she got charged with careless driving causing injury... carries a mandatory 6 month disqualification period. bummer huh..... you can also get jail time if the injuries and circumstances are severe enough.... aka 'aggravating factors'.

yeah unless the cops fuck up a blood test and the case gets thrown out!!!!!!!!

Went to a smash on xmas eve a couple of years ago, one of the guys i used to work with was at the work xmas party drinking most of the day , then went to the kopu pub afterwards.
he left around 10 pm and 20 mins later we were responded to a MVA at waitakaruru persons trapped with car on fire, he had struck a bridge abutment , just like on that ad on TV with the 4 guys, he entered the bridge sideways tipping over a 4wd heading for Thames with a family of 4 in it , with all sustaining minor to serious injuries, the car continued over the bridge striking a 2nd car with 3 ppl in it and then hit another car with a women and child of around 18 months old the women was trapped mildly and if it wasnt for some public and residents arriving on the scene then the guy who was drunk and caused it all would have burned to death, the public tipped the car over and put out the fire and kept him under water as he had serious burns to his body. the women was trapped with minor injuries and her child had a broken leg.
all in all it took over 500.000 dollars and probably more towards 1-2 million in total for that accident , as the rescue chopper had to take the burnt victim to middlemore then return for the child and mother too Starship, then return and take some more of the victims from Thames to Waikato
with a couple more going via road to waikato, then you have the recovery in hospital for the more serious injured.


.....And guess what , they stuffed up his blood test and he got off ...bullshit Eh!!!!!.