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    Cheers to the grey beards for this insightful read. Having not the experience nor knowledge to actually comment on this 'ere current subject, I'm not going too, but will say that I have always liked the old school stuff. Whether it be the character of the machines, the people involved or just simply reminising with my Grandfather about his old bikes.
    Might one day buy an oldie but a goodie, only hope there'll be someone around knowledgable to teach me how to look after it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Certainly do. But don't tell anyone I said that. Ok?
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    qiut a bitching, if you are worried about oil use of the 675, just buy an r6, the look heaps better anyways!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    No. Would car manufacturers expect you to check your oil every time you drove? I don't think so. This is the 21st century and gawd dammit I expect to get on my bike and ride it and maybe check the oil every 2 or 3 thousand kay's just like in my car. In fact..that's what I've managed to do for the past 15 years riding without any problems (2 smokes excepted).

    Point taken, my bike doesn't use enough oil that I'm topping it up very often, but maybe I'm paranoid since seizing my old XS750 Special many years ago. It was using oil and I didn't check it often enough.

    It would be interesting to know the manufacturers' stated oil usage for their various models, if anyone has that info? I still say, though. that high-revving, high-performance engines will use a certain amount of oil by comparison with your "daily driver". Our car uses none between changes, (15,000k servicing), my work truck doesn't use enough to top up between services and our old ('93), Nissan turbo-diesel van has negligible use as well. I do remember an expert many years ago saying that a high-performance motor should use a bit of oil.
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    Alfas use some oil between changes. The manufacturers make a point of advising that this is normal and cautioning that you should check and top up regularly.

    The old XK Jag engine was also known as an oil burner. Clearances on high performance engines are less tight than those on more mundane models.
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    It's usually older design low performance engines that use more oil.Valve guide seals and piston ring design weren't up to the modern norm.Pushrod engines have little oil in the vavle area so seals were pretty basic...as some has to lube the guide.The modern engine uses low wall pressure rings,they use the pressure of compression and combution to seal....old style rings in low compression engines use more wall pressure to seal.They just use more oil.I don't see why a high performance engine should use more oil.
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    TRX850's use a bit of oil, but that is documented in the owners manual. Some sort of complex harmonics thing to do with firing order and 5 valves per cylinder.

    However the Triumph 675 shouldn't be using 2/3rds of its oil between the first and second services in my opinion. That isn't in keeping with modern expectations at all. If it is using that much oil the service intervals should be half of what they are. I found the article in Bike and the Triumph people said that the oil consumption was in keeping with what they would expect for "moderate to hard use". It's a sprotsbike. It's going to get thrashed.

    As much as it may gall the more mechanically inclined on the site, there really are people who don't know about oil, coolant, and brake fluid and are barely able to cope with picking the right pump in the forecourt to refuel at.
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    In the old days (yawn) those were the sort of people who didn't stick with motorcycles for very long....you needed some sort of mechanical sympathy to ride a bike back then.Now with bikes just being a plaything people with absolutly no mechanical sympathy at all ride bikes.And they still have problems....but now someone else is to blame for their lack of knowledge.

    Motorcycles used to an elite club,only certain types rode bikes...they enjoyed them,knew how they worked,looked after them themselves.Now it seems to be an elite club for the rich....and ''the serciceman'' looks after your equipment.
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    Found this. Any mention of checking the oil level?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    Found this. Any mention of checking the oil level?
    It feels like a trick question but I'll venture a timid no. Except for the defined intervals of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    It feels like a trick question but I'll venture a timid no. Except for the defined intervals of course.
    I'm guessing they're relying too much on the oil level light gimmick. Does the bike have a sight glass or dip stick (old fashioned I know but functional ) to double check do you know?

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    A dedicated 675 forum here for those interested.

    http://www.triumph675.net/phpBB2/vie...f21f7dbc7936b0

    Yip they have a dip stick. How quaint-

    http://www.triumph675.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4761

    Those posts are Sep 06 so there's been an issue for sometime.

    Another thread which mentions various m/c mag articles-

    http://www.triumph675.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4526

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    I'd just like to point out that I don't in any way want Triumph or the 675 to fail.

    Thank you for finding out about the dipstick Bonez. I can put the stack or magazines down now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I'd just like to point out that I don't in any way want Triumph or the 675 to fail.

    Thank you for finding out about the dipstick Bonez. I can put the stack or magazines down now.
    I think the thanks should go to you Jim2 for bringing it to everyones attention. Seems NZ dealerships don't seem to have let on about it. Looks like the servicing manuals have been ammended looking at that thread.

    Edit- I do like new Triumphs slogon "Go your own way" and their model range btw. Something for most road riders is available and they can only get better .

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    Funny. I found this thread while looking for a new crank, rod and bearings for my 06 daytona because it drank all its oil .... changed the oil a month ago but rode quite a bit, at reasonable speeds (not racing though), then one day on the way home - oh no ....
    anyway off to look for wreckers ..... suggestions welcome =)
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