What's up with my license???

[masterofpuppets]

ok, since we are on the subject of losing licenses and emerit points and what not, id like to ask if any of you would know what the story is with me...

i recently got my license back after losing it for a month. had a few demerits beforehand, so i thought sweet those will get wiped. however i even though i lost my license i didnt have to go to court. so ive been thinking..... does this count as a loss of license or just a ssupension of some sort, meaning that not only did my demerits not get cleared, but i got an extra 50 or so added on

i'm hoping it option A

[TerminalAddict]

you have to be without a license for 6 months or more before demerit points are wiped

[masterofpuppets]

you have to be without a license for 6 months or more before demerit points are wiped

so does that mean that when you go over a hundred you lose it for 6 months.... man that would suck i think im on 90 or something

[Ixion]

3 months. The one month thing is a "suspension" not a "disqualification" Typical crooked government thing. Demerits are only cancelled by (a) expiring after two years (b) if you are disqualified for 3 months because of 100 demerit points, all points are cancelled (c) if you a re disqualified by the courts (usual minimum seems to be six months, not sure if lesser periods are possible) all demerits are cancelled.

So the 28 day suspension thing for 40kph over, doesn't cancel your demerits, and usually will give you a bunch more for a subsequent 3 month loss.

Bloody governments, how crooked is that ?

[masterofpuppets]

and usually will give you a bunch more for a subsequent 3 month loss.

yep, exactly the brew i'm in....... i guess i'll have to put paying this one off for as long as i can, as the demerits go on once its paid off. and ride like a nana for the next year. pffffffttttttttt

[lukelin250]

howd you manage not to go to court??? im still waiting for my summons. demerits seriously need to be looked at. these mp's just dont live in the real world and dont realise riding a bike you can accumulate 100 demerits very easily for minor things and two years to have them wiped is an absurdly long time. isnt it enough us paying the huge fines???

i say demerits if you dont wanna pay a fine, no demerits if you do pay the fine!! hows that sound as an idea guys??

[Ixion]

They go on at the date you admit guilt, pay the fine, or enter into an arrangement to pay (the latter two being effectively a guilty plea) [EDIT or are found guilty or have a guilty plea entered by default because you did not respond to the various rmeinders etc ] . Spinning out the payment period does not help.

The demerits date fromt he date of the offence.

[lukelin250]

ixion you must be a lawyer, you know an awfull lot about road law. your help as always is invaluable. thankyou

[xwhatsit]

Ya know... I don't know how you can say that you can accumulate 100 demerits very easily for minor things. Maybe if you're being totally irresponsible, but what you're saying is ridiculous. I know I don't ride a CBR250RRRRRRR, but (at least in the eyes of the law) my bike isn't hugely slower; hell yours is still a 250cc bike. It's not like you're riding a Hayabusa. If you ride like an irresponsible dick then sure you'll get a lot of speeding tickets and dangerous driving tickets, but I'm sorry, but if you act less like a tosspot and keep the `I'm a such a big man, even though I'm not long out of my teens' stuff to the trackdays, you might actually be able to keep your licence.

/rant off. Don't like Mondays, can you tell?

[RiderInBlack]

How da ya check ya demerits?
I'm getting close and need ta check before paying the one picked up yesterday. 116Kpm in a 100KPM zone on SH16. Didn't even get a blip out of my Escort. He reckoned that he flicked the radar on and off quickly as he came over the brow of a hill. Don't know how he manage to get a descent lock on my speed with just a flick without triggering my detector. Sounded a bit dodgy. He did offer me a look a the reading, but how would ya know if it was yours or someone else's? Didn't make an arse of myself with him, as New Year's Day is a bad enough day for them anyway.

[DEATH_INC.]

Draco got done like this. I know the speed he logged was from one of my other mates in front of her (I was following her at the time) as it was a good 20k or so faster than we were going.....wanker.

[RT527]

if you know any cops just give him your licence and ask him to check you out via a QP, ( query Person).he will radio comms and have an answer with in a minute.

[Clockwork]

......i say demerits if you dont wanna pay a fine, no demerits if you do pay the fine!! hows that sound as an idea guys??

So, as long as you can afford the fines you should be free to speed with impunity?.... sounds like a (Business Round Table) plan to me!!

[pyrocam]

How da ya check ya demerits?
I'm getting close and need ta check before paying the one picked up yesterday. 116Kpm in a 100KPM zone on SH16. Didn't even get a blip out of my Escort. He reckoned that he flicked the radar on and off quickly as he came over the brow of a hill. Don't know how he manage to get a descent lock on my speed with just a flick without triggering my detector. Sounded a bit dodgy. He did offer me a look a the reading, but how would ya know if it was yours or someone else's? Didn't make an arse of myself with him, as New Year's Day is a bad enough day for them anyway.

I find it easier to call up the (0800 822 422) number for the ltsa they tell you right there
also theres a factsheet on what gets you demerits and how much here
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...the-line1.html

also a handy hint. if you already have 100 demerits and you get more before the document server can get to you (because your not home for whatever reason each time). pay them off asap because they will get wiped off over your 3 month suspension

only another 43 days to go.....

[The Pastor]

If you get over 100 demerits, a nice man will come and take your licence, you do not have to go to court. 3 months later you will get one in the mail with 0 demerits.

If you do 40k over the limit, you will be summoned to court, lose your licence for 3 months and get a whole lot more demerits, which will probabliy put you over the 100, in which case, when you get your licence back after 3 or 6 months (not sure how long it gets taken off you for speeding/careless/dangerous driving) a nice man will come and take your licence off you again for 3 months.


3 months, is much eaiser than waiting 2 years, a bit more expensive though. Just dont get caught for 3 months. - I got 2.5 months with out getting caught...