The self cancelling system on the hogley is actually very good. It will wait all day if you are stationary at the lights or whatever, but cancels quickly if you ride away. Far as I can tell, it cancels ;
Never if you are stationary
30 secs if moving
as soon as you do a gear change
When I ride my other bikes I leave indicators on all the time now - it pisses me off. Often I will use hand signal just to avoid it. !
Maybe a loud beeper that doesnt go if the neutral light is on, so I dont sit at the lights beeping..
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
I have the same problem. This was the solution I came up with.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=13894
Grow older but never grow up
Yeak Oakie, I blame Harley Davidson. Until I got self cancelling indicators I NEVER forgot them. Now I never remember them.
Or is it old age.. hmmm
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
IMHO that was a very dumb thing for the cager to do.
Yes, bike was indicating left.
Yes, car indicating right.
Yes, IAW road code, car has right of way if both vehicles are turning onto the same part of the road.
HOWEVER what say bike was indicating to turn into the car park just after the intersection?
Or, as in this case, it is obvious that the bike has left his indicator on, as is has been flashing for ages.
Myself, if turning right I don't dare move until I am sure the left turning vehicle is turning left. If they are they will stop! Or, not.
Either way my bike (or car) remain intact.
Sorry if this has been covered, just had to let it out while it was fresh in my mind.
I am one of those who press the canceller every so often. Especially when approaching intersections that I don't intend to change direction.
One thing I am thinking of introducing on my group rides this year, is a shout of the bar (just for the group) for anybody who leaves their indicator on when they are not intending to turn.
Of course, the shout is after the bikes are put away.
I think this will help with the education. (Or at least I won't have to buy beer for a while/ or until everybody makes it a habit).
Components coming together nicely for a wireless, helmet housed, indicator alert system. Watch this spot....
Strangely enough, if you do turn in front of a vehicle with it's indicator going but travelling straight through, you are guilty of failing to give way.
Case law says you MUST be certain the vehicle is turning before you can assume right of way.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
I think that hits the nail on the head.
The TL has a green light that in a lot of daylight conditions can not be seen,not to mention it is not in the direct line of site compared to a more upright seated bike.
It probably wouldn't be that hard to rig up a remote light/beeper that could not be missed.
Strange how some car drivers have no problem second guessing a bike but they wouldn't do it if it was a truck.
In that situation i do not move until the left turning vehicle has made a positive move to actually doing it.
A lot better than something trying to come through the drivers door.
Bloody hell Lou - that's a bit of a surprise! I could be caught out there many times. What if they are in a turning lane? probably that would give you enough evidence to proceed if they had an indicator on?
As for the leaving the indicator on thing - I am pretty bad at that as my view of the flashing light is obscured slightly on the ST (or maybe I'm too busy watching the road). Solution - a couple of beepers from DSE for 10 bucks each... problem solved!![]()
I do get some strange looks now though...![]()
Regards
DougieNZ
J'Ville
Wellington
Yip that'll be a fright and a half!
I'm in the habit of pushing the indicator cancel button immediately after exiting a corner, unless I know my next intersection in 40m time turns in the same direction, then I can't be bothered, too much effort.
90% of the time spent writing this post was spent thinking of something witty to say. It may have been wasted.
Not really. If a vehicle wishes pull over and stop or say turn into a driveway just past the intersection they, in theory need to start indicating prior to the intersection. As has been said, you need to be sure they are turning before you move.
My younger brother found this out the hard way. Pulled out on a car indicating to turn left and slowing - to pull over just after the intersection as it turned out. Wrote off his car and was charged also.
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