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    Characteristics of a triple?

    Bit of a newbie question, have done a quick search with no joy.

    I know the basic differences between a V-twin engine, an inline-four and a two-stroke but could the knowledgable ones out there explain to me the basic characteristics of a "triple" engine such as used a lot in Triumphs.

    Also if there are other major engine configurations that are used regularly could you let me know.

    Cheers for your help.

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    Other configurations:
    Boxer Twin (BMW)
    L2 (Ducati)
    L4 (Ducati Desmo16)
    V4 (Honda VFR/RVF)
    Parallel Twin
    V5 (Moto GP)
    Boxer 4 (Goldwing)

    Dunno what the attributes of IL3 are though - ZRXER should be able to help as he has got one.
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    Cheers McJim,

    So much I don't know I'd like to see someone come up with characteristics of all of those - would be most impressive. I love learning about all this stuff - I have virtually no knowledge on mechanical things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Other configurations:
    Boxer Twin (BMW)
    L2 (Ducati)
    L4 (Ducati Desmo16)
    V4 (Honda VFR/RVF)
    Parallel Twin
    V5 (Moto GP)
    Boxer 4 (Goldwing)
    Hmm. So what's the difference between an L2 and a V2? Also I think some goldwings and valkyries had a boxer 6 ...

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    V2 up to 90 degrees
    L2 beyond 90 degrees

    then you've got transverse V2 (Moto Guzzi) Rotary (Norton)

    Just about any configuration of 1 or more pistons has been used by some manufacturer at some time or other.

    If you look at Bikez.com for the spec of things like the Triumph triple you can see hp versus capacity versus torque versus redline which will give you a fair idea of how the engine works.

    e.g. Ducati 750ss Redline about 10K - max power 62 hp max torque 60 Nm. therefore L twin = low revs, low power per cc huge torque.

    Also cranks can be changed to give different attributes to an engine.

    The permutations are almost endless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    V2 up to 90 degrees
    L2 beyond 90 degrees
    Fair enough. I'd always heard Ducatis described as v-twins, though.
    then you've got transverse V2 (Moto Guzzi) Rotary (Norton)
    Is that really the normal way to describe the Moto Guzzi layout?

    I would have thought that for consistency, you'd label it as transverse or longitudonal based on which way the crank lies, rather than the overall dimensions of the motor - so most IL4s are transverse, but so is my VT250, while a Guzzi or BMW (typical boxer twin varieties) would be longitudonal.

    Seems messy and illogical if you describe a GSXR and a Guzzi as both being transverse.

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    You'll never get to the end of this thread.

    You've missed out inline 6s, jet turbines (Y2K), V8 bikes (MotoGuzzi, Boss Hawg, etc.), V3s, the odd (very odd!) radial-engined bike, and then all those really weird engines like the 6-stroke; diesel-engined bikes.......
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Aye, yer right enough - I had it arse about face - longditudinal is where the cylinders hang oot the sides transverse is where they line them up neatly behind the front wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwh View Post
    Fair enough. I'd always heard Ducatis described as v-twins, though.

    Is that really the normal way to describe the Moto Guzzi layout?

    I would have thought that for consistency, you'd label it as transverse or longitudonal based on which way the crank lies, rather than the overall dimensions of the motor - so most IL4s are transverse, but so is my VT250,
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    Nope. For your etification- http://www.answers.com/topic/v-twin

    Transverse and longtitundinal relates to cylinder layout not crank layout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Aye, yer right enough - I had it arse about face - longditudinal is where the cylinders hang oot the sides transverse is where they line them up neatly behind the front wheel.

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    Ok not an absolute rule but generally speaking the less cylenders you have the more torque you get as I say this is a general rule somthing to do with for a given capacity less cylenders equate to bigger piston stroke and for some reason that some of the more tecnicaly minded my care to explane longer strokes = more torque

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonez View Post
    You weren't wrong.
    Hmmm - wikipedia telt me ah wiz spoutin' shite again. Ah always kent wikipedia was full o' it.

    Cheers bud.
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