Cheersl! Going to be an awesome day AGAIN in the wairarapa tomorrow... been looking forward to riding up the hill again.Originally Posted by jimbo600
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Cheersl! Going to be an awesome day AGAIN in the wairarapa tomorrow... been looking forward to riding up the hill again.
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Forum whore
In fact, you don't really need to ban them, do you? You can ticket them for what they're already doing. Stick in a few centreline cameras, and we'll be sweet
That's better, in fact, because it will get the folks who are merely too lazy to stay on their own side, as well as the ones that can't.
Richard
(No, I haven't seriously thought about how a centreline camera could actually figure out when something's crossing the line illegally)
Hardcore Biker
ok then you better go do some statistic searching , for instance you guys are always blaming the truck driver , another thing if i cant get around a corner because i cant go over the centre line then fuck it ill sit there all day and block the lane then.
Another thing at no stage do i think it ok for anyone to crash and kill somebody else nor do i condone it.
also, i never said i was the best i just try harder not to do things wrong.
Any proof to back that up before you slander his name....no , didnt think so.Truckie high on P and exceeding hours no doubt
Today
and ive been to accidents caused by farmers crossing there cows , so lets ban them from getting to the milk shed....Farm tractors on the road, biggest hazard out there.
I`m not saying its right!!, but get over it and have some courtesy for all road users , it would stop a lot of accidents.
yeah fair enough ....but you cant use smaller trucks for 40 foot containers that weigh 27 tonne putting me 44 tonne all up (legally) so dont blame the truckies , we use vehicles that the ltnz approve so its the govt`s fault. If you ban trucks from carting from the smaller suppliers , you will cause thousands of job lose`s and small businesses to close,its just not economically viable to cart small bit loads from these suppliers.There is no excuse at all for any vehicle crossing the centreline on a blind bend (or, indeed, at all, except obviously for overtaking).
If large trucks cannot negotiate the roads without crossing the line, the obvious answer seems to be to use smaller trucks. The rare instance where a very large lorry is needed for an oversize load , have pilot vehicles (as at present).
The trend toward monstrous oversize American trucks is driven by one thing only, profits for the trucking companies. They are no doubt suitable for US freeways, but not suitable for our much more demanding roads.
If it won't fit on the roads, it should not be on the roads.
I know of at least one motorcyclist killed by a truck taking up two lanes to do a left turn.
Having said that , you still need trucks to get the goods to the rail anyway.
the accidents that I know of which has been caused by ma pa and kids in a cage and doing something wrong or illegal Is greater than the truck being at fault or the driver, so stop driving/riding stoopidly and it wont happen as much!!!.
Hardcore Biker
I do realise this isnt a personal attack and you have concerns so why isnt the road being repaired/ straightened a lot faster than it is.
We shouldnt be blaming anyone but ourselves , instead we need to do something about the roading issues and fast.
W.A.N.K hardcore
Apparently the Rimutaka Hill Road committee have plans to do just that over a 10 year period. Probably quicker to punch a hole through it though. They've done it once already for the already established on here sub standard rail service.
My idea was best of all. Run the road like a trackday. Fast guys from say 0800-1100 medium after that followed by HT guys. (just kidding by the way)
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Forum whore
Think about that comment for a second and then come back with something a little less emo, OK? Just calm down and think for a second. Remember my insurance claim went through and I didn't lose my no claims, or have my premium jacked, so I might not be talking rubbish.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Not the weight, I think, it's the turning circle. If a truck can't safely get a 40 footer into a location, then use a 20 footer. There wouldn't be many roads in NZ that a single 20 foot container would be too much of a handful. there's no actual LAW says that stuff may only be shipped in 40 footers.
I agree that the driver can't be blamed for driving a vehicle that's approved. So the ball does come back to the LTNZ.
I don't see any need to ban trucks. Just use smaller ones for places where the roads are narrow and winding. That would actually mean MORE jobs . and by definition smaller suppliers don't need big trucks. In fact most small businesses I know, it is the reverse, they complain that freight companies don't want to take their loads because they are too small to fill a big truck.
So, where's the problem with using two small trucks instead of one huge one?
Forum whore
The accident on the weekend was caused by the truck running out of brakes and tipping over negotiating a corner and crushing a car. Hardly ma and pa's fault.
I can't remember the last time I saw containers on the Rimutakas. It's mostly bulk goods for Supermarkets and seasonal stock truck runs and apparently logs again.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Sure - but trains handle them fine, right? Isn't the whole point of shipping containers that they're easy to move from one vehicle to another?
Of course. I can't see anyone having a problem with trucks being used to get goods between businesses and railyards (or between businesses that are close enough together). Only really big or conveniently located businesses can sensibly have their own sidings.If you ban trucks from carting from the smaller suppliers , you will cause thousands of job lose`s and small businesses to close,its just not economically viable to cart small bit loads from these suppliers.
Having said that , you still need trucks to get the goods to the rail anyway.
And of course there would be a bit of pain during the reform; it's not how we're used to working, so I'm not surprised it doesn't work well. But a little pressure from the govt, whether by banning trucks from particular roads, or increasing RUC or whatever, would result in enough investment to fix that.
Richard
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Have you seen the tyre marks from the truck? It looked to be leaving rubber on the road going into the corner, giving the appearance of heavy braking to the point where it turned over.
Just an observation 10 minutes after the event.
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Forum whore
Yeah, I saw them on the Monday. Scary stuff.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
sdkfz
A few Takas' trips ago I came across an event on the Featherston side a few minutes after it happened.
An uphill truck and a downhill truck had met at a sharp bend, and their right-front-corners had connected.
I have no idea which truck crossed the centre line, or if any real blame was to be had.
But what I saw as I waited (I was on the bike so was waved through much sooner than the cars) was:
- the uphill truck could not back down - too hard with the trailer and the road curves.
- the downhill truck (no trailer) was having trouble backing - because of the curve, and his driving wheels were bouncing and skipping.
So regardless of fault, it seems an accident on that hill involving a truck (or two) has extra stuff-up-the-road effects.
(How often do trains actually go through the tunnel? Could the tracks be paved either side so that trucks could use the tunnel beween trains? (one way))
Cheers,
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Forum whore
There's a bloke with his brain turned on.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Hardcore Biker
The problem with the Takas is that there is nowhere to go if you see somebody coming towards you if you aren't in one of those little sitby places. I have encountered many trucks that are on my side of the road when i am heading over the hill. I wouldn't say it's the drivers fault though - it's just that the road is too thin.
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Forum whore
Exactly elle, and none of us are blaming the driver. However if the road isn't suitable for heavy transport, and look at how many brake failures the Rimutakas generates and it is only 13km of windy hill road, then it should rated as unsuitable and heavy transport should find an alternate route or medium.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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