Which muscle bike? CB or GSX

[The Stranger:Me]

I never at any time mentioned the Blackbird or its FI. You raised that red herring. I actually quite like Blackbirds to ride, as you may have noted from other threads. I just don't much like their ergonomics over long distances. The PGM-FI to which I referred, if you had taken the time to read, was that on my ST1300.

I am not sure from your rambling incoherence what you think it is I am supposed to be talking about. I have no difficulty apologising when I am wrong.

Again you have shown an inability to comprehend written English. I said I liked the carbs on a ZRX1200R. I also said that I really liked the injection on a Yamaha FJR1300. I have ridden many injected bikes that I really enjoy, as you may have noted from comments I have made in other threads. If you want to extrapolate these comments to imply that I love all things carburettored at the expense of all things fuel injected, then that is your call, but it's not what I wrote.


Yes it does. Honda sold thousands of these in New Zealand. They were amazingly popular...

And in case you're having trouble understanding joined-up words, here's a summary:

1. In my opinion, the Kawasaki ZRX1200R is the pick of the Japanese big naked muscle bikes that I have ridden (I can supply a list and witnesses, if necessary).
2. I deduce from your vitriol that you haven't ridden one. You may not like it. That's fine, not everybody does.
3. I prefer the fuel injection system in the Yamaha FJR1300 to the PGM-FI system in the ST1300. I have ridden other PGM-FI Hondas (including the Bird and VFR800) and found them acceptable, albeit a bit snatchy at times (especially the VFR).

Wow, how freaky - You don't perchance know a certain Robert J. Hanlon do you?
Because I feel certain he knows you.

It is obvious from your post above that your arguments fall into the latter category.

[The Stranger:Me]

Yes it does. Honda sold thousands of these in New Zealand. They were amazingly popular...

And in case you're having trouble understanding joined-up words

And in case you're having trouble understanding lies - Just got off the phone with Blue Wing Honda. They advise that only 10 of these were sold by Honda in New Zealand - amazingly popular indeed.

Just stick to the facts Hitcher.

[imdying]

And in case you're having trouble understanding lies - Just got off the phone with Blue Wing Honda. They advise that only 10 of these were sold by Honda in New Zealand - amazingly popular indeed.

Just stick to the facts Hitcher.

Regardless of whether you're right or not, you've nicely managed to prove, with that one single comment, that you're a retard with no life. Congratulations

[The_Dover]

are you bitches still pulling each others hair?

[The Stranger:Me]

Regardless of whether you're right or not, you've nicely managed to prove, with that one single comment, that you're a retard with no life. Congratulations

OMG you are right.
What was I thinking verifying a fact?

[imdying]

OMG you are right.
What was I thinking, going to the trouble of bothering some real life people to get facts to win my petty internet argument?

Yes. What were you thinking?

[Blackbird]

Sigh..... Does a squabble always have to erupt from a previously sensible discussion? (don't answer that).

I reckon buying a bike is about 80% emotional appeal, followed by a bit of logic when the deal is nearly made. No wonder emotions run high from time to time with a bit of fact-filtering to suit each side of the argument!

Still, thanks for providing some entertainment in my first week back at work after the hols. Maybe the 2 protagonists are grumpy about being back at work too

[imdying]

I reckon buying a bike is about 80% emotional appeal, followed by a bit of logic when the deal is nearly made. No wonder emotions run high from time to time with a bit of fact-filtering to suit each side of the argument!

Yeah... gotta ride them... some bikes just rub you the wrong way, no matter how good they are. The opposite of course applies... They can be crap and still sell, look at Hondas!

[The Stranger:Me]

They can be crap and still sell, look at Hondas!

Nah, you just haven't got it - you are going to need a better troll than that to get a rise.

[imdying]

Heh, I didn't want a 'rise' (is that sexual), I just wanted to inject a little good humour back into the thread

[Jimmy B]

Righto Back on topic,

You’ve obviously looked around and decided that these 2 have made the cut. Both are extremely capable bikes that have more than enough grunt to lose your license from a standstill in close to 6 seconds.

For the GSX you may wish to search posts by “Beyond” on this site. He has written in some detail about this model. I really rate the solid good looks of this bike, it’s big and wide and I like it.

I wouldn’t discount Hitchers words on the ZRX1200 (not the 1100). When I was in your shoes this bike was certainly near the top of the list. Unfortunately I couldn’t locate one that was in my budget. UK Rider Mag (Oct/Nov 06??) did an in depth revue on second hand muscle bikes which also included the Fazer and the Bandit. The ZRX came out tops and having ridden one I couldn’t disagree.

If you are around the 7-8K mark than what CaN says in his first post about the X11 is true, I think you would be hard pressed to get that much boogie for less. The aesthetics of the bike were slagged by the UK press and it was not a big seller. Despite its looks they all agreed that the Blackbird derived engine is a stonker and close to unbreakable, I would expect mine to still be going after 200,000Ks. Honda dumped it in 2003 and have not replaced it. The CB1300 is not a replacement as some will say. Parts and some aftermarket mods maybe a little scarce.

In my experience every one who has seen my bike up close reckon that it is a mean looking sucker, far better in real life than in pictures. Who really cares anyway when you’re trying your level best to hang onto the beast. Someone I know took one out on Saturday and decided (with ~4kms of unobstructed view) to have a crack. Thought they were doing 170ish and glanced at the Speedo – 210Ks in the blink of an eye and pulling like a bustard. Great ride, very stable at speed and not too shabby in the twisties.

Good luck with whatever you choose and let us know how you get on

Cheers

JB

[HanSoloNZ]

Well after all that I went in and tried quite a few bikes at Sportzone and Casbolts and the two bikes mentoned above were both great and I ended up buying a........ Damn what was it?

[HanSoloNZ]

Oh thats right a 06 SV1000 Naked, which happened to be on sale at 12k, which I thought was a pretty awesome price, throw on a rear hugger and some yoshi's and all up will be around the $13500 mark, I think I was lured in by the mighty twin, thanks for everybodies input, time to get out there and break it in.

[DMNTD:Me]

Excellent choice man...excellent! I know you'll love it as we loved ours
Do recommend the -1 tooth front sprocket which'll make it considerably easier to ride in traffic and doesn't turn it into a gas hungry machine either.

[Jimmy B]

Nice one Man, thunderous bike if there ever was one