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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    If they locked it in, they may show you if safe and reasonable to do so. The point I was making is that they don't have to lock the radar, their observation is enough. But obviously locking it in and showing the person the readout would add some value to the police case - a good cop would also record your reaction to the readout as well and anything you say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    If they locked it in, they may show you if safe and reasonable to do so. The point I was making is that they don't have to lock the radar, their observation is enough. But obviously locking it in and showing the person the readout would add some value to the police case - a good cop would also record your reaction to the readout as well and anything you say.
    In saying that - I had a bastard pull me up between Pokeno and Tuakau who said he "visually estimated" my speed! Checked the radar reading in his car and it was conveniently 121kph - into the next braked of demerit points and fines. I sure as hell wasnt going that fast (then...) so I complained and he said I had to write a complaint letter. So I worte a letter of complaint and my reply was "I did not estimate your speed it was checked with an accurate instrument. Should you wish to take this further contact the courts".
    Bullshit really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetboy View Post
    Bullshit really.
    Years ago I got pulled over on my XJ 650, and the cop said do you have any reason why you were doing that speed. I said cause I was allowed too.. (I was doing around 110kph)

    He wrote the ticket out in a real bad mood and put 203km as the recorded speed. I looked at it and said thank you, I will see you in court. He gave me a blank look... and said fine.

    In court, I said. I would happily pay the fine if any one in this court room can make my XJ special do 203kph as it is... Its outside... lets go. (it has top end speed of around 170 - 175 when it was new and after I added all the touring kit and panniers it was probably only 160kph)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Years ago I got pulled over on my XJ 650, and the cop said do you have any reason why you were doing that speed. I said cause I was allowed too.. (I was doing around 110kph)

    He wrote the ticket out in a real bad mood and put 203km as the recorded speed. I looked at it and said thank you, I will see you in court. He gave me a blank look... and said fine.

    In court, I said. I would happily pay the fine if any one in this court room can make my XJ special do 203kph as it is... Its outside... lets go. (it has top end speed of around 170 - 175 when it was new and after I added all the touring kit and panniers it was probably only 160kph)
    sounds like swantiger losing his license for doing 140kmh+ on a hyosung
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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    sounds like swantiger losing his license for doing 140kmh+ on a hyosung
    Thought he had a "rock solid" defence???

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    It does seem to me that it is time that NZ law was amended to require visual proof of an alleged excessive speed.

    There are too many anecdotal cases where cops are alleged to have "made up" grossly excessive speeds for them all to be urban myth.

    I can't see why the radar units could not record a date/time stamp and the speed they clocked at that time and print it out.

    In the short term, a simple digital camera focused on the radar unit would work fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    It does seem to me that it is time that NZ law was amended to require visual proof of an alleged excessive speed.

    There are too many anecdotal cases where cops are alleged to have "made up" grossly excessive speeds for them all to be urban myth.

    I can't see why the radar units could not record a date/time stamp and the speed they clocked at that time and print it out.

    In the short term, a simple digital camera focused on the radar unit would work fine.
    But, but, the tickets would cost even more then...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    But, but, the tickets would cost even more then...
    what the paper or would they raise the fine to cover the extra cost?

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    Instant fines start at $30 up to $630...

    The median is $300... if maths serves me correctly?

    Make any speeding ticket, being 1 km over or whatever, a $300 ticket...

    Sorted!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    Years ago I got pulled over on my XJ 650, and the cop said do you have any reason why you were doing that speed. I said cause I was allowed too.. (I was doing around 110kph)

    He wrote the ticket out in a real bad mood and put 203km as the recorded speed. I looked at it and said thank you, I will see you in court. He gave me a blank look... and said fine.

    In court, I said. I would happily pay the fine if any one in this court room can make my XJ special do 203kph as it is... Its outside... lets go. (it has top end speed of around 170 - 175 when it was new and after I added all the touring kit and panniers it was probably only 160kph)
    do cops get in trouble for blatently lying? or is it the calibration of the lasers fault? Can they check if the laser really did read that or do they just believe the cop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLOWN View Post
    do cops get in trouble for blatently lying? or is it the calibration of the lasers fault? Can they check if the laser really did read that or do they just believe the cop?

    I don't lie - ever!!!

    And I ALWAYS let the speeder read the speed on the radar - and that's even if I locked-on a speed slower than they were originally doing when I first saw them. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    I don't lie - ever!!!

    And I ALWAYS let the speeder read the speed on the radar - and that's even if I locked-on a speed slower than they were originally doing when I first saw them. .
    just refering to the incident quoted. I have had more nice cops pull me over then mean ones. all in all my opinion of cops is a positive one.
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    man I don't want to pay a 700 doller fine, im at uni and don't have a job! the cop told me it would be around $600 as that is the fine for doing 100-140, and they take into consideration that you lost your licence, looks like the cop lied to me, damn I thought that only happend in the movies
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    I'm gonna have to join the club now. Got busted for 105 in a 50 zone.

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