Two-stroke or 4?

[Volcanix]

So im looking at geeting my bike licence and a bike, but i have no idea of the differences between 2s and 4s.

so could someone please list the pros and con of each, an other information you may know. eg: what is cheeper to maintain?


i will be greatfull for any help.

[hitch]

2 strokes are noisy smoky things and you have to mix the oil with petrol. 4 stroke is the way to go much cheaper to run and you don't have to mix anything.

[Grub]

Also 2-strokes have a very high maintenance cost. The engines just don't last whereas by comparrison a 4-stoke will go 'forever'.

Also, it may be that with the new testing station emission tests, that 2-stokes may all fail. I've not read here that anyone is entirely sure about that yet.

[Ixion]

Also 2-strokes have a very high maintenance cost. The engines just don't last whereas by comparrison a 4-stoke will go 'forever'.

Also, it may be that with the new testing station emission tests, that 2-stokes may all fail. I've not read here that anyone is entirely sure about that yet.

No, two strokes are exempt. We got a special dispensation. Table 1-1.Cos we're special.

True, the engines don't last forever. Petal needed a rebore at 90000 km ! There's only two more rebores, so year 2067 I'm going to be in trouble. And she'll only have done 300000km then

Advice ? Depends what you expect.

If you're sensible and don't have much money to throw around, you'll buy a GN250 or Yamaha Scorpio. Four stroke single

If you've got a tiny penis and need to compensate , you can buy an old 4 cylinder 4 stroke. They go faster.

If you're a nutcase and don't have much money , you can buy a new(ish) 150cc two stroke. They go faster too, and cost much less. And they're fun. If you buy one and you're not nuts, you soon will be.

If you want to die you can buy an old 250cc two stroke.

[Grub]

If you've got a tiny penis and need to compensate , you can buy an old 4 cylinder 4 stroke. They go faster.

Hey I resemble that remark!! And anyway, anyone who has a bike called "Petal" must have a pussy, not a penis (or both)

[Racey Rider]

If you're a nutcase and don't have much money , you can buy a new(ish) 150cc two stroke.

Hey! I heard that!!


and Someome pass the Nuts

[240]

Hey mate good luck with going for your license.
A two stroke v 4 stroke depends on what you want.
I am an ex mechanic and have a handle on both.
A 2 stroke is faster....simple as that....there is no comparison.
Modern water cooled 2 strokes ARE reliable.
You need to understand that they are made to be worked and they produce their power at the top end of the rev range.so if you like to wind things out 2 strokes are awesome.
4 strokes generally produce their power down in the rev range (excepting for a 4 cylinder screamer) which sounds like it is doing 400kmph when it is doing 50
A great bike to learn on would be a vt250 honda (4 stroke)or an rg150 suzuki (2stroke).
Both these are excellent and reliable and will go forever.
A 250 2 stroke is probably a bit fierce---- these things fly!!!! and you will have plenty of time to enjoy one once you have more experience.

[rogson]

Like I've said before, 4 strokes are like your wife, 2 strokes are like your mistress - you choose......

[crazybigal]

2 strokes are great fun! but your better off with a 4 stroke in the long run

[Jono]

Yep i started on a 2 stroke 150cc bike. Its a great bike and is reasonably new (2001), didnt break the bank too much which was good as i had some money for some gear (highly rec).

Its got some power if ya wanna have some fun and is fine for around town commuting. But if your gonna be doing long distance high speed trips then of course a bigger bike is the better way to go.

It all depends what your wanting out of a bike.

I brought my RGV150 mainly to commute 25 mins each way to uni and for the odd ride with mates (and of coarse to save time and gas $$).

And its suited my needs fine.

I think its been a great bike to learn on and a suitable stepping stone (hope to get a bigger bike in the near future). Im glad i got her rather than an old GN250!

Maybe if you tell us what sort of riding your gonna be doing we might be able to help you a bit more.

Cheers

[Theatre]

I was tossing this same question up about a year ago. What swayed me towards the 2 stroke was soley the bang for the buck factor. 2 stroke 150s go for about the same price as fxr150s yet go almost as quickly as the 4 stroke 4 cyl 250s. The 2 stroke powerband is a wonderful thing, its as if the bike is always egging you to twist your wrist and rev the crap out of it. Like ixion said, if you're not crazy (like a fox!), you will be after getting one.

You've gotta add 2 stroke oil, but its really not difficult. Pretty much every modern 2 stroker will have a separate tank for the oil so don't worry about having to mix it every time. Just top up the oil tank every 500 or so kms to be on the safe side and you're away. They need more mechanical work than 4 strokes ie top end rebuilds, but pretty much all work is both easier and cheaper on a 2 stroke than a 4 stroke. My bike isnt very comfortable on long motorway rides either, though that could be because im quite tall.

I love my bike, wouldnt get rid of it for any learner legal bike short of the newer 250 smokers.

[Jorja]

Well I just got my very first bike. A little 2 stroke. Reason for getting this one came down to price. All up it will cost about $500 once i have completed restoring it. For a first bike I can learn to ride on, it is perfect.

[Rosie]

I've got a 2-stroke 150
As Ixion said, you end up going nuts, but you need to learn to get the most out of the bike, you don't just blip the throttle in some random gear and accidentally find yourself travelling at warp factor 9.
I was pretty slow and timid when I first started riding, and the KR never 'got away on me', it was just a nice sensible little bike.
Now I'm getting better I'm using the gears more, revving higher and coaxing more performance out of the bike. And having a lot of fun doing it. And probably going slightly nuts.

[vamr]

2 strokes are noisy smoky things and you have to mix the oil with petrol. 4 stroke is the way to go much cheaper to run and you don't have to mix anything.

The mixing is done internally, unless you are talking about archaic vespers...

[Ixion]

2 strokes are noisy smoky things and you have to mix the oil with petrol.

Yes, they are. Noisy, smoky, antisocial, environmentally unfriendly . Absolutely disgusting. The riders are just as bad. Hooning all over the place , flat tit, all noise and smoke and speed. Only an antisocial nutcase would ride a two stroke.

Thaz why we luvs them so