Oooooooo, that'll get them going...........Originally Posted by Ixion
Engine work, and tuning
Trade in old bike for new and improved version
Suspension parts and set up work
Eight trackdays with associated fuel and tyres
Stacks of road km with associated fuel and tyres
A 2nd (dirt) bike for practising catching slides
Keith Codes' Superbike School at Eastern creek in Sydney (one day)
Personal tuition from an international New Zealand Racer at a trackday (four days)
Two thousand dollars worth of literature and BRONZ type courses
Other, please explain
Forum whore
Oooooooo, that'll get them going...........
- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.
Deus ex ukulele
I've said it before: I don't think trackdays experience means you will be a better or safer road rider. Keith Code may be able to get you around Eastern Creek more quickly than previously, but I can't see those skills helping to get you out of town more quickly or safely on Easter Thursday afternoon.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Large Falcon Collider
I wonder if doing two fast days at Philip Island with the pros would just make you fast at Philip Island?
"If life gives you a shit sandwich..." someone please complete this expression
Off the wagon
I have to ask you both if you have had any track time at all? Having been strictly a road rider for 20+ years myself, then doing some track days, I found I became so much more aware of all the dangers/threats facing me each time I got out on the road again. I dont ride any faster on the road than I used to but I do have a whole new level of awareness because of the time I have spent on the track. My riding has improved on the track as well as on the road.
Forum whore
I'd do an American Supercamp with Chris Carr - shit,being taught how to go sideways on 100cc bikes by the fastest motorcycle rider on the planet would cap off my career perfectly.
http://www.americansupercamp.com/new...r/2002fall.pdf
Last edited by Motu; 28th March 2007 at 18:38.
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Right here right now No question id be splitting my money down the middle. Half spent on suspension setup and half spent on rider training.
To see a life newly created.To watch it grow and prosper. Isn't that the greatest gift a human being can be given?
Ta
Safely???
I'd spend it on the mods, reasons are...
If someone is wanting more speed, they'd have to be well spastic to not know how to handle the speed they already have.
In my experience, you can find yourself going too fast on a CB125, so what you're bike is capable of is irrelivent.
Track time and raod k's are invaluble as a tool for going faster, and I've had loads of both, dont get me wrong, I cock it up and enter corners too fast frequently, but my experience has taught me what I need to do to increase my chances of riding out the other end, rather than sliding on my arse.
I dont think there is any one thing that can be done to increase speed safely, but I find myself as close to the limit as I feel comfortable at times, and think some tuning and mods would raise that limit to give me back some kind of buffer.
My thoughts only, if anyone thinks I'm all shit and a blow hard, they are welcome to eat my excriment
(Had to add the last bit, because I realised I hadn't contradicted anyone, or made blatent abusive comments.)
Ta
I wondered this same thing when I started getting faster at Manfield, and it turns out ...NO.
My riding has gotten faster every time and place I give it a push. Because spending time pushing your bike, is what teaches you how it'll react.
Track knowledge is a BIG deal for racing, road or track, but doesn't make a difference to the skill levels.
Deus ex ukulele
Not yet. Find me a circuit with off-camber corners, pea gravel, road kill on your corner line, SUVs going the other way and corrugations in the braking zone. And some reason for using the brakes for purposes other than just scrubbing off speed -- maybe this ideal circuit could have random jay walkers or flocks of sheep that meandered across the start-finish straight.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Off the wagon
Does that mean you might give it a go?
Off the wagon
Sounds like the road to Whangamomona!
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Not for somewhat over 30 years. And then things were very different, "track days" weren't really invented then.
But I do not have a sprotsbike. An RT BMW on a track would be ludicrous. ffwabbitt would do well enough motarded, but I do not wish to do that. Petal does not accept that corners have any right to exist. Do you have any tracks that are just long straights and sweeping curves ? The Titan is the only one that would be at all suitable, and if it were thirty years younger I might think of it. But now, spare parts are rare and expensive, and thirty years hard smoking deserves a more gentle hand.
And I agree with Mr Hitcher's comments. The track is a very artificial world.
Hired tool
What would you do then?
Ixion, you can say what you like about being old, Weestromer's pretty old and has recently discovered the joy of the track
Ok im coming out of my closet just this one time, I too kinda have a curvy figure which makes it worse beacuse im a guy. Well the waist kinda goes in and the bum pushes out. When I was in college the girls in my year would slap me on the arse and squeeze because apparently it is firm, tight...
I wear jeans
.....if I find this as a signature Ill hunt you down, serious, capice?
Off the wagon
Until you try it for yourself.
One hell of a ride.
I sure do. Once you've survived as long as you and I the point may be moot, but for the less experienced:
Experience in emegency situations for starters. you get a number of 'on the edge' moments on a track that could replicate the reactions required dealing with hazards encountered in day to day riding. Oil spill - loss of traction. it's all experience.
The best way to hit a golf ball accurately 250mts is to practice trying to hit it 300mts over and over again.
It's like Riding on the road is much easier after trying to go fast on the dirt.
Controlling a road bike is at legal speeds is easier if you are confident enough to do it flat maggot too. You don't have to live at it - but a session or two wouldn't hurt everyone.
The problem is the pea brain who then rides like the road is a swept smooth race track.
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