Pea gravel

[Keystone19]

Has Transit New Zealand recently started laying down new gravel and then leaving it for road users to bed it down without leaving up warning signs? Or have they always done this and I've just not noticed it before?

Places I have seen this in the last month:

Riverhead - Coatesville Highway
Kaiuaua GP
A couple of places on the Coro Loop

[Shadows]

They've always done it and you haven't noticed.
Its just that they haven't got enough signs to go around, and they have decided it is better to have roadworks and 30kph signs up in areas where they simply haven't finished painting lines on the road or where they are working on a footpath, than to have the signs in places where there is actually a hazard worth telling road users about.

[NotaGoth]

How bout gravel the size of golf balls.... For what seemed like 2km, maybe more...... On a passing lane.. Going up a hill... No signage whatsoever to say that the left lane was going to end up being closed either... Just cones placed on a blind corner to close off that lane... There was alot of it..
Wasn't on my bike.. Was in my cage.. Did alot of damage even trying to crawl at snails pace though.. Wouldn't have wanted to have been on my bike..
It was like it at 7am in the morning.. Think it had been like it overnight.. And I'd say they had a few complaints because the road was clean as when we came back through...

[The Pastor]

yeah its part of the construction process, there isnt actually A good way around it (for roads with a few bends + heavy traffic). If they lay seal down straight away it just gets ripped up.

My personal view is that gravel is awesome, and toughen up. (and don't ride so hard that if somthing unexpected turns up you cant safely get around the corner).

[Keystone19]

yeah its part of the construction process, there isnt actually A good way around it (for roads with a few bends + heavy traffic). If they lay seal down straight away it just gets ripped up.

My personal view is that gravel is awesome, and toughen up. (and don't ride so hard that if somthing unexpected turns up you cant safely get around the corner).

It seems to me that it is just a cheap form of roading - both in terms of content and construction process.

And I think you miss my point. I don't seem to recall noting anywhere that I found this a problem. Simply an observation.

[Big Dave]

There is a legal precedent for succesfully claiming damages from the council is the hazzard in not clearly signposted.

If you come off in it you can successfully sue - not much use if you are dead - but it has already happened in Wellington.

[The Pastor]

And I think you miss my point. I don't seem to recall noting anywhere that I found this a problem. Simply an observation.

I didnt say you did.


And yes it is a cheap roading, But you can thank the goverment for that one.



But if you care to know, The reason they leave the gravel on the road is two reasons.

Compaction - no matter how much you roll it with a roller traffic will do the compaction 10 times better as its 24/7.

To get the ALD (average least dimention) correct. basicly this makes all the gravel to be seeted so that it is lieing sideways (so that the bitchomen has more stone to stick to).


(and of cource money)

[White trash]

It seems to me that it is just a cheap form of roading - both in terms of content and construction process.

And I think you miss my point. I don't seem to recall noting anywhere that I found this a problem. Simply an observation.

Could be you're just a blind bitch. Thought of that? Could even be old age setting in.......

[Grahameeboy]

I agree with Keystone. It seems to be worse these days.
Take the new Esmond Road roadworks. Signs are haphazard, often no signs of road narrowing..........it is crazy.

I came across new gravel on a bend at the weekend with no signs.

[jahrasti]

If it is a highway then Transit is at fault and get into them, if it is a council road, well they do what they want.
Depending on if it was a rehab(digging up the road) or a reseal then excess chip still might be coming off after it was sealed.
Traffic rolls the chip to get a good fit but it should still have to be swept to a good level.

It could even be a case of shit construction and it is blowing out I don't know these roads mentioned.

If there are roadworks without signs then that is horseshit and fucken dangerous and the contractor or whoever should have there balls cut off.

I may work in the industry but I know there are alot of wankers out there that think half pai is ka pai and charge an arm and a leg.
Moan to Transit (if it is a highway) untill you get an answer you are happy with.

[Big Dave]

If it is a highway then Transit is at fault and get into them, if it is a council road, well they do what they want.
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Not since they had a judgement on this matter go against them.

[Keystone19]

Could be you're just a blind bitch. Thought of that? Could even be old age setting in.......

This is true...old, blind and waaaay too fast...

[rok-the-boat]

They are probably in league with the boys in blue (bib) - instead of doing a good job they save money by leaving a 30kph sign up and then the bibs can hide around the corner and catch you because nobody can go as slow as 30kph unless they are about to stop.

Riding in the UK I often noticed that when they laid a new road there was usually a van lingering nearby ... selling new windscreens. Keep your Visors down!

[Xtat1k]

Lol coming back from Kaiaua a few weeks back there was a shit load of it, unsigned, downhill on the corners for about 3-4km, whata bitch that was.

[Ixion]

,,they save money by leaving a 30kph sign up and then the bibs can hide around the corner and catch you because nobody can go as slow as 30kph unless they are about to stop.

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??? Eh? Wotcha on abart Willis. I should hope that ANY biker can go a whole lot slower than 30kph indefinately without problems. You should be able to ride perfectly comfortably for any distance at less than 5kph let alone 30.