ACC calls for “greater awareness of motorcyclists”

[Grahameeboy]

You can't enjoy it if you can't ride it can you?

Contrary to popular leftist ideology, making something compulsory does not give you a +1 force field of not being run into by blind road users.

I was not saying that......just saying that if we were made to wear a dayglow vest, it would not make riding any less enjoyable, did not say it would make us invincible.

[Grahameeboy]

Can you think of a way to convince them ??

The problem is often within rather than outside......

[Max Preload]

So lets get this straight...

Motorcycle accidents cost $52M per annum. 75% of them are not the motorcyclist's fault. So, 25% of $52M is $13M. In 2006 there were over 43,000 vehicle license paying motorcycles on the roads, at $166.20 each per annum for the ACC levy portion of the license. That's about $72M.

So we motorcyclists are, in effect, subsidising others to the tune of $59M per annum. Whom is bleeding whom?

[ManDownUnder]

The closest calls I have had have been where the driver is looking right at me, I always check their eyes (where it is possible to see them) and they have pulled out anyway. Where I can't see their eyes I tend to expect the unexpected.

It has nothing to do with if the driver saw the bike or not, that is just a convenient excuse, no point in targetting that as that is not the cause of the problem.

As a generalisation I concurr - and I hasten to add Mr Airhorn does wonders in terms of raising awareness of the incident.

[ManDownUnder]

I was not saying that......just saying that if we were made to wear a dayglow vest, it would not make riding any less enjoyable, did not say it would make us invincible.

Nothing personal but I liken it to painting my hair green. No less comfortable but it takes some getting used to...

[breakaway]

Saw this on the way home today. Sorry for low quality pic.

[Grahameeboy]

So lets get this straight...

Motorcycle accidents cost $52M per annum. 75% of them are not the motorcyclist's fault. So, 25% of $52M is $13M. In 2006 there were over 43,000 vehicle license paying motorcycles on the roads, at $166.20 each per annum for the ACC levy portion of the license. That's about $72M.

So we motorcyclists are, in effect, subsidising others to the tune of $59M per annum. Whom is bleeding whom?

Yep, I raised that point in an earlier post....works out that $52,000 divided by 43,000 is around $123 so we pay our way.

But we live in a non-fault compensation society remember so even taking away the issue of blame we still contribute $20 million extra.

[peasea]

So lets get this straight...

Motorcycle accidents cost $52M per annum. 75% of them are not the motorcyclist's fault. So, 25% of $52M is $13M. In 2006 there were over 43,000 vehicle license paying motorcycles on the roads, at $166.20 each per annum for the ACC levy portion of the license. That's about $72M.

So we motorcyclists are, in effect, subsidising others to the tune of $59M per annum. Whom is bleeding whom?

I wouldn't mind getting to the nitty gritty of those figures, good point.

[Grahameeboy]

Nothing personal but I liken it to painting my hair green. No less comfortable but it takes some getting used to...

I dyed my hair red, white and blue when I was a punk and no one recognised me at a party.............I guess a cager may not recognise me wearing a green vest then...

[ManDownUnder]

I dyed my hair red, white and blue when I was a punk and no one recognised me at a party.............I guess a cager may not recognise me wearing a green vest then...

LOL - but did they SEE you?

[The Stranger:Me]

So lets get this straight...

Motorcycle accidents cost $52M per annum. 75% of them are not the motorcyclist's fault. So, 25% of $52M is $13M. In 2006 there were over 43,000 vehicle license paying motorcycles on the roads, at $166.20 each per annum for the ACC levy portion of the license. That's about $72M.

So we motorcyclists are, in effect, subsidising others to the tune of $59M per annum. Whom is bleeding whom?

Well it actually gets worse than that.
The doctor is responsible for ticking the motorcycle box on the ACC form. If a rider of an off road bike has an accident off road it should NOT be classed as a motorcycle accident, but a recreational or work related one instead as the case may be with say a farmer.
However as the doctor simply hears motorcycle and as there is a space for motorcycle it gets lumped in there. They then divide the cost of motorcycle accidents by the number of registered motorcycles to come up with the horrendous figures.
So take all the off road motorcycle accidents out of the $52 mil before you start.

[Grahameeboy]

LOL - but did they SEE you?

Yes is the answer...was wearing bondage gear, the whole works....the 70's were good times.

On a serious note I tried a green headlight protector on my RF and it was amazing that I had less cagers giving me grief.....just got pulled up by cops.

What we need is something that makes cagers think twice and makes them think "what is that"....exactly what the green protector seemed to do.

[Dave Lobster]

On a serious note I tried a green headlight protector on my RF and it was amazing that I had less cagers giving me grief.....just got pulled up by cops.

I used to have a purple one on my Thunderarse. With a pair of 160w main beams.
An excellent way to clear the outside lane of a motorway..

Again, PC Pork Dripping wasn't very impressed.

[Grahameeboy]

I used to have a purple one on my Thunderarse. With a pair of 160w main beams.
An excellent way to clear the outside lane of a motorway..

Again, PC Pork Dripping wasn't very impressed.

I think green is what Doctors use hence my being stopped but what is wrong with purple eh...

[Max Preload]

Yep, I raised that point in an earlier post.

Sorry about that - some mongrel merged the threads as I was posting it.