Accident-damaged bike or ex-race bike?

**orangeback** · 24th June 2007, 19:39

Here 's one to debate on
Would you rather buy a Accident Damage bike v Ex Race bike
pro's and con's
At least with an accident crashed bike it probbly only been crashed once vs numerious times.

ex race bikes usually the body works mint, since its been shelfed since new,

allmost everybody must have a view on this ,as i know ive bought a bike(GSXR N) in good faith from a shop to find that the bike had been crashes quite badly into a mx5 killing someone, (passanger of car) that i didnt find out till after i low sided it ut side home
This is along the line that im thinking. Let the debate start

**Steam** · 24th June 2007, 19:43

Ex race bike has been revved and stressed to hell, then discarded cos it's too fukt to race any more.
Accident Damaged bike has just been crashed, once fixed it's good as a regular normal road bike.

**orangeback** · 24th June 2007, 19:48

Originally Posted by Steam

Ex race bike has been revved and stressed to hell, then discarded cos it's too fukt to race any more.
Accident Damaged bike has just been crashed, once fixed it's good as a regular normal road bike.

Good point there as race bikes they only seam to keep for 1-2 seasions then flick them on whille they can get good Coin for them , and the current model , you dont see Stroud run the same bike for two seasions,

**marty** · 24th June 2007, 20:41

speaking of stroud's bikes - does anyone know anything about the ex-stroud k4 gixxer thou for sale on tardme? with the yoshi internals? looks pretty sharp, offered for $15k

**Colapop** · 24th June 2007, 20:43

It doesn't matter where it's had an accident. It matters what condition it's in.

**onearmedbandit** · 24th June 2007, 20:46

Originally Posted by marty

speaking of stroud's bikes - does anyone know anything about the ex-stroud k4 gixxer thou for sale on tardme? with the yoshi internals? looks pretty sharp, offered for $15k

Been on there for a very very long time. Started off at over $20,000 if my memory serves me well. Don't know anything else.

Originally Posted by Colapop

It doesn't matter where it's had an accident. It matters what condition it's in.

What he said.

**Sensei** · 24th June 2007, 21:07

Friend here has Andrew Strouds K1 race bike which has been put back to road spec still has all the Yoshy goodys inside apart from the Yoshy cams , but he want let me ride it for some bloody reason to see how well it goes

**The Stranger:Me** · 24th June 2007, 23:23

I have LB's old K3 GSXR. Bought it with 30000 on it and it now has 55,000 on it.
When I got it both crash bungs were ground off and one melted.
I always planned to replace the suspension anyway and did steering head and wheel bearings and brakes. Just replaced the chain and sprockets now too.
Motor is sweet as and given the price I am happy as hell with the purchase.

**Headbanger** · 24th June 2007, 23:33

I wouldn't buy just any race bike, But if I had the spare cash, It came from a fully flush race team, and she was one season old.

Then maybe.

But some if not the vast majority of race bikes have had all the life squeezed out of them in a very short span, And thats not just the engine, But the entire package, frames,brakes,suspension.

I have only raced dirt,But no bike I have raced as been the same after I have finished....

**kickingzebra** · 25th June 2007, 06:45

With race bikes, you generally keep them in top notch condition, brakes are serviced and pads changed far more regularly than any road bike, bearings are generally monitored, and torqued. The only thing that could potentially suffer is the axles and lock nuts and adjusters. The motor, in general, will be far better looked after than any road bike.

How many ex race bikes do you hear of blowing up? bugger all. If they are going to blow up, they will do it on the track at the redline, not tootling along to the corner dairy at 120.

You are getting a cheaper better deal than a crashed bike somebody is trying to make some coin on, and chances are high, that you will genuinely be helping a racer stay on the racetrack, which helps avoid senseless stupidity on the road.

Don't forget, that racing is what these bikes are aimed at, so if they will cope with the rigours of track life, then the road will be a doddle, unless you really like bouncing off the limiter in first and second.

**Coyote** · 25th June 2007, 08:25

If Stroud's bike is still on trademe by the time I'm 18 (November) and if I'm able to get the money from the bank, I'll get it.

Do I have the skill to handle 180hp? No. Will I ever have the skill? Not for a few years if that. Will it be fun trying? Hell yeah!

Yes I'm nieve but I choose to ignore that.

**R1madness** · 25th June 2007, 09:37

Originally Posted by marty

speaking of stroud's bikes - does anyone know anything about the ex-stroud k4 gixxer thou for sale on tardme? with the yoshi internals? looks pretty sharp, offered for $15k

Mate its a good bike. Yes it is an ex racer but from memory (its a bit strained but i think i can remember back that far) it was not crashed during the season and it was a really strong runner. Does it come with the road as well as the race gear? If so it is a really good buy. Road and track days. Yahoooooo.

**FROSTY:Me** · 25th June 2007, 09:51

I must add theres EX and ex in both cases.
at one extreme a bikes been snotted hard and the guy has massaged the thing back straight enough to get a WOF -wrinkled forks bent subframe and all. The other extreme is a hobbyist who bought the wreck and has not compromised in the rebuild
same with the ex race bike. One extreme is a bike bought and used for one season.The team has bolted on al the good gear-suspension/exhaust/rearsets etc --Thousands of dollars worth --AND all the suspension setup done.
The other extreme is a bike thats passed through several sets of hands -never maintained and slowly deteriorating -loosing bits n bobs along the way.
In a nutshell --treat an ex race bike or ex smashed up bike the same as you would anything else -Look it over propperly.Ask pointed questions,dont be afraid to get it checked out

**imdying** · 25th June 2007, 10:16

I'm not sure I'd want Andrew Strouds ex race bike... if there's one bike that has been raped, that's gotta be it

Good chance it has been well maintained though... decisions eh

**Harry the Barstard** · 25th June 2007, 10:37

Originally Posted by kickingzebra

Don't forget, that racing is what these bikes are aimed at, so if they will cope with the rigours of track life, then the road will be a doddle, unless you really like bouncing off the limiter in first and second.

This is right. my 05 ZX6rr is ex race. The oil was changed after every race, the suspension has been up graded (front white power shocks installed) etc. Plastic is in mint condition, granted due to not being on the bike since it came from japan. So basicly i have a cosmeticly mint 05 sports bike with upgraded goodies with 3,500 K's on the clock. Ok so the bike has been raced, but when they were designing the bike thats what they had in mind for it. Thay didnt think right we need a good commuter then made the ZX6RR. So in summary i reckon not ideal but not a huge drama either.

Ok, so it's not ideal that shes been raced but i got the bike for a great price (it was the cheepest 05 with the lowest k's). Still gotta be better than bent chassis and all the other nasties that supprise you when your replacing or servicing a random part.