Rego fee idea for BRONZ

**James Deuce** · 5th July 2007, 11:58

Multiple bikes in the garage = multiple registration fees.

Solution: ACC Levies on only one of the bikes registered to the owner.

Number of ACC levies due per household would be governed by the number of Class 6 license holders living in a household.

1 Class 6 license holder and 4 bikes = 1 Rego fee including ACC levy + 3 rego fees excluding ACC levies. Only one bike can be ridden at a time.

2 Class 6 license holders at an address and 2 bikes = 2 x rego fee including ACC levy. Both bikes could be on the road at the same time.

I would be more happy to continue paying more ACC fees than a Class 1 holder if there was some fairness in the system as described above.

**yungatart** · 5th July 2007, 12:01

Brilliant idea! Would certainly save some dollars in this household...4 bikes currently in the gargre, 3 license holders. Every little helps.

**Kflasher** · 5th July 2007, 12:12

That would such a sweet deal...the monies saved could go towards...hmmm, bolt on bits.

**u4ea** · 5th July 2007, 12:17

Its definatly a great idea but I cant see them doing away with ACC levies for no:2..they need to sqeeze every penny out of us they can remember!!!

**Holy Roller** · 5th July 2007, 12:21

Thats a great idea in theory

Same arguement could be used for cages also. ACC Levys may be charged to licence holders instead as it is the person who gets hurt, then what about those who have a licence but no vechicle?:spudwhat:

**NinjaNanna** · 5th July 2007, 12:21

Wouldn't it just be easier to transfer the ACC levie to the Drivers License. (yearly or 5yearly fee)

That way everybody who has a motorcycle license pays the levie, regardless of the number of bikes they own or have registered.

If a rider has a license but does not ride then they should be able to suspend their motorcycle license (much the same as suspending your vehicle license fees)

If you get caught riding while you have your license "on hold" then you get a wacking great fine (say 2 yrs worth of levie)

Seems pretty simple to me

**ManDownUnder** · 5th July 2007, 12:26

It doesn't benefit me peraonlly but...

Jesus! Now THERE is common sense if I ever heard it.

Love it...

**WarlockNZ** · 5th July 2007, 12:42

Originally Posted by Jim2

Multiple bikes in the garage = multiple registration fees.

Solution: ACC Levies on only one of the bikes registered to the owner.

Number of ACC levies due per household would be governed by the number of Class 6 license holders living in a household.

1 Class 6 license holder and 4 bikes = 1 Rego fee including ACC levy + 3 rego fees excluding ACC levies. Only one bike can be ridden at a time.

2 Class 6 license holders at an address and 2 bikes = 2 x rego fee including ACC levy. Both bikes could be on the road at the same time.

I would be more happy to continue paying more ACC fees than a Class 1 holder if there was some fairness in the system as described above.

Are you a member of Bronz?? .. if so, just attend the next meeting and raise it .. i think it's an awesome idea!.

If your not a member ... sign up!!!

**Ixion** · 5th July 2007, 12:54

"tis a brilliant idea.

Unfortunately, the idea (in various forms, but all basically along the lines of acc and/or rego following the person rather than the vehicle) has been suggested by BRONZ , to ACC, LTSA, gubbermint in general, many times. It's sort of our annual perennial.

And the response from TPTB each time is the same . A big fat "OK. We'll think about it. Sometime. Not. Now, moving right along".

But we'll keep nagging on about it.

**Jantar** · 5th July 2007, 12:55

Or easier still is to charge ACC levies on fuel, not on registration.

Then ride your bike, drive your cage, payy ACC. Leave bike or cage in the garage, don't pay ACC. Simple.

**Big Dave** · 5th July 2007, 12:59

The process is a member should raise the issue in general business at the next meeting. - In Auckland that would be with Mr Ixion presiding - and a resolution be voted on by the members present.

This would then go to the National executive as a proposal to be adopted as Policy.

If adopted it will posted on the BRONZ web site policy index (Me being webmaster) and a 'form' letter calling for action would be 'copy and pasteable' to the relevant ministers and their departments.

It starts with the meetings.

ahh I see mr ix answered while i typed. carry on

**xwhatsit** · 5th July 2007, 14:18

The problem is, we do tend to hurt ourselves a lot. And I'm sure somebody said that the ACC levies collected don't actually completely cover the cost of ACC payouts anyway? So while this would be very, very sweet (I'd love another plaything, maybe eight), they would lose a lot of money that many times comes back to us when we end up on car bonnets.

If they did this, I could only see them raising the existing ACC levy, penalising owners of single bikes.

**James Deuce** · 5th July 2007, 14:28

Originally Posted by xerxesdaphat

If they did this, I could only see them raising the existing ACC levy, penalising owners of single bikes.

That's quite simple to avoid. Require all off-road and farm vehicles classed as motorcycles to be registered. Most of the farms I've seen, their quad bikes spend a good percentage of their time on tarseal anyway. That way a group who add to the statistics around motorcycle accident costs, but escape ACC levies on those vehicles will be captured.

I don't see how single bike owners would be "disadvantaged". At present the registered motorcycles in NZ should be covering ACC costs of more than $400 per registered motorcyle. You'd just be paying Accident Insurance premiums commensurate with the cost.

**swbarnett** · 5th July 2007, 14:47

Originally Posted by NinjaNanna

Wouldn't it just be easier to transfer the ACC levie to the Drivers License. (yearly or 5yearly fee)

Then what about those who hold a M/Cycle license but haven't ridden in years? Are you suggesting suspending the license? What if I go to live overseas, does that mean that I have to pay an NZ levy or surrender my license?