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    here is my favourtie letter that I send into the council or any govt dept when I get a ticket of any sort

    I have got of many time as it is normal passed on to some one above fill out the gaps as to what the ticket or prblem attains to
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE180 View Post
    here is my favourtie letter that I send into the council or any govt dept when I get a ticket of any sort

    I have got of many time as it is normal passed on to some one above fill out the gaps as to what the ticket or prblem attains to
    But what are you actually asking for? If you get a ticket for parking on the pavement, what are you going to get them to provide information on; the parking warden's inside leg measurement? Ratio of tickets issued to used chip packets on the pavement?

    If you're just querying what the ticket is for, all they have to do is send you a photocopy of it, or write in big letters "Parking on the pavement, as it says on the ticket"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE180 View Post
    here is my favourtie letter that I send into the council or any govt dept when I get a ticket of any sort

    I have got of many time as it is normal passed on to some one above fill out the gaps as to what the ticket or prblem attains to
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanx View Post
    But what are you actually asking for?
    I was thinking exactly the same thing. The letter doesnt even make sense.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    I have ask for the contracts between towing companys and the council I have ask for the by laws inwhich the are issuing me the ticket from

    etc they hate paper work !!!!!!!!!

    fill in what you want to get a copy of

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    Quote Originally Posted by UberRhys View Post
    Bit of a bugger that University has finished as at Auckland the SMC guys have had a few battles with bike parking and that place is normally spewing bikes on to the footpath. But will keep an eye out with a camera at the ready...
    Running battles yes, wont have any pictures of it till we go back next year, will be spewing then with the summer heat (was just running up to that with more and more scooters showing up before the end of semester)
    Have to check to be sure but i think we've got over a hundred bike/scooter riders which would account for most of the available parks gone, but alas, no photos of people cramming them in till feb!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    BRONZ (and AUMC) have a slot booked to address trhe Transport Committee of the Auckland City Council at its next meeting. Don't know when the enxt meeting is yet because the Council is still inventing itself .

    The previous committee under the old council held its meetings at 1:30 on Wednesday afternoons (once a month). Don't know if the new committee will stick to that time or not

    It would be good to get some bikers roll up in support. One person with a grievance is a crank, two are an interest group, twenty is the voice of the people.
    Supportive as ever of democracy (NOT !) the ACC have left it till the last minute to advise a dtae and time. But they have.

    This Thursday , 13th Dec at Meeting Room, Level 15, Civic Building, 1 Greys Avenue, Auckland on Thursday, 13 December 2007 at 12.30pm.

    Anyone who can come along, please do. Free parking in the Aotea car park building.

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    Debrief:

    A very productive meeting.

    Presentation well received. We managed to set one half of the committee at the throats of the other half (whilst we sat quietly watching). Which is good, when knaves fall out honest bikers come into their own. And we now have allies.

    After much envenomed invective and reference to standing orders etc, the chairman was obliged to accept an amendment moved by Clr Easte, requiring the GM, Parking (our old friend Mr Tomlinson) to prepare a memo for the committe by the March meeting, detailing what he is doing about motorcycle parking. I will be contacting Mr Tomlinson in the next few days to suggest what he should put in that memo (since we were referred to him by the Committee to get something done!). Clr Easte was seconded by Clr Fryer. Clr Bhatnagar got derailed in silly suggestons about motorcycles paying parking fees, which I said was unworkable, and none of the other councillors were interested in that idea.

    The committeee broadly accepted the arguments that motorycles are a GoodThing. And that we should be considered in town planning decisions (that's a big win) . And that more motorcycle parking is needed.

    And after we withdrew Clr Miller came out to see us and Crashe detailed the exploits of the infamous parking Warden 71, and Clr Miller has offered to sort out the said parking warden.

    We also have the committees approval to hit up the community boards to provide parking spaces in suburban areas

    So, from all of you, I need details of suitable palces,. you need to tell me where you want to park. Needs to be practical, and not involve demolishing stuff, or forcing out other road users etc. Over to you, ask for it or lose it.

    Thanks to all the uni dudes who came along
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Debrief:

    A very productive meeting.

    Presentation well received. We managed to set one half of the committee at the throats of the other half (whilst we sat quietly watching). Which is good, when knaves fall out honest bikers come into their own. And we now have allies.
    Well done Now I guess we just need to focus on where...

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    awesome work all those that attended
    I only posted this because of the global economic crisis

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    Awesome Ixion! Thanks for your efforts on this matter and a big thank you for the KBers who were able to go down to the council offices to represent us all. Keep up the good work dude!

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    For BRONZ

    Letter to Mr Tomlinson. Watch this space
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    For BRONZ

    Latest update

    Met with Mr Tomlinson and a Mr Tim Darby , the latter apparently being the guy who decides what parks where, yesterday

    Very amicable meeting, Mr Tomlinson spinning like mad, and me spinning back. Mr Tomlinson is genuinely pro biker (he *claims* to be the dude that introduced the free parking in ACC parking buildings. I thought it long preceded him, but maybe before I just didn't pay). He rides a Triumph Speedmaster. A weekend warrior, but a rider none the less. And he gave *me* the spiel about bikes being good for the ecology, congestion busters etc. He's a pom by the way but we won't hold that against him.

    He says that a review is in process now, which will provide a "lot" more motorcycle parking , especially in non CBD areas - eg Ponsonby rd, Parnell.

    He was also receptive to bikers sending in suggestions of "odd bits of space suitable for motorcycle parking" : send them to tim.darby@aucklandcity.govt.nz (I cleared that with Mr Derby). So, over to you, if there's a good posy and you want it made legit, email the dude. Also if you have a strong opinion on where the "lots of new bike parks" should be.

    He raised the subject of parking on the footpath: it's a "health and safety issue" apparently, cos little kiddies could burn their little handies on hot exhaust pipes. I knew someone would think of the children. He kept a straight face saying that, but , I think, with difficulty.

    I pointed out that there was "footpath footpath" and "out of the way not in anyones way, only footpath because it's not road footpath", to which he mumbled.

    In which connection, has anyone RECENTLY (ie since Decnmber) had a problem with footpath parking? I haven't and I've kept right on parking as I always have.

    I also raised the issue of zealous wardens ticketing for no WoF, rego, when they are there . He promised to "have a word" , and pointed out that if that happened it was only necessary to call Auckland City Council ,and they would check, and if true, cancel the ticket.

    I do not believe him, of course, but he was, I think, as straight a s a bureaucrat can be (I had a cheap corkscrew went like that once, after I tried to open a really tightly corked bottle of wine). And he is an ally in court so we will not alienate him. I shall however, nag, irritatingly. I'm very good at that.

    Further input is invited.
    Last edited by Ixion; 12th February 2008 at 18:33. Reason: Tim Darby not Derby
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    Latest update

    Met with Mr Tomlinson and a Mr Tim Derby , the latter apparently being the guy who decides what parks where, yesterday

    Very amicable meeting, Mr Tomlinson spinning like mad, and me spinning back. Mr Tomlinson is genuinely pro biker (he *claims* to be the dude that introduced the free parking in ACC parking buildings. I thought it long preceded him, but maybe before I just didn't pay). He rides a Triumph Speedmaster. A weekend warrior, but a rider none the less. And he gave *me* the spiel about bikes being good for the ecology, congestion busters etc. He's a pom by the way but we won't hold that against him.

    He says that a review is in process now, which will provide a "lot" more motorcycle parking , especially in non CBD areas - eg Ponsonby rd, Parnell.

    He was also receptive to bikers sending in suggestions of "odd bits of space suitable for motorcycle parking" : send them to tim.derby@aucklandcity.govt.nz (I cleared that with Mr Derby). So, over to you, if there's a good posy and you want it made legit, email the dude. Also if you have a strong opinion on where the "lots of new bike parks" should be.

    He raised the subject of parking on the footpath: it's a "health and safety issue" apparently, cos little kiddies could burn their little handies on hot exhaust pipes. I knew someone would think of the children. He kept a straight face saying that, but , I think, with difficulty.

    I pointed out that there was "footpath footpath" and "out of the way not in anyones way, only footpath because it's not road footpath", to which he mumbled.

    In which connection, has anyone RECENTLY (ie since Decnmber) had a problem with footpath parking? I haven't and I've kept right on parking as I always have.

    I also raised the issue of zealous wardens ticketing for no WoF, rego, when they are there . He promised to "have a word" , and pointed out that if that happened it was only necessary to call Auckland City Council ,and they would check, and if true, cancel the ticket.

    I do not believe him, of course, but he was, I think, as straight a s a bureaucrat can be (I had a cheap corkscrew went like that once, after I tried to open a really tightly corked bottle of wine). And he is an ally in court so we will not alienate him. I shall however, nag, irritatingly. I'm very good at that.

    Further input is invited.
    cheers...
    I'm in the city on Wednesday so shall take note of the actual address of where I park at the Ponsonby Road foodcourt (well its where lots of bikers stop to eat in that area). Will also go do a wee run over to my other places that I park in as well in the city.

    I'm sure Mr Derby will love his email inbox full of email's from all us bikers.

    Too date I haven't had a parking ticket when my bike is parked on the footpath... mind you I can usually see my bike when its parked up...... or I have someone nearby who can come and get me if a parking warden is spotted.

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    Spank had his gixer parked on the footpath outside my work this morning and no ticky. The wardens walked past a couple of times and just ignored it.
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    I've never been ticketed anywhere in Auckland so far. (CBD, grafton, newmarket, takapuna etc) admittedly I don't park on the footpath that often.


    5 minutes in hamilton on the otherhand....
    I only posted this because of the global economic crisis

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