Hidden riders

**Luckylegs** · 16th October 2007, 23:07

Originally Posted by RDJ

Dunno but with those, ah, booties, downshifting must be tough, I hope you have a slipper clutch...

That aint the half of it, you wanna try 'Head Checks' with no neck, oh,,, and dont get me started on finding a helmet that fits me properly.

**Conquiztador** · 16th October 2007, 23:08

Have been in black for more years then I want to remember. Never had an issue with others in the traffic. Then again, my bikes have always been of the type that you hear before you see them...

**Luckylegs** · 16th October 2007, 23:15

Originally Posted by Shadows

I can only imagine. Let alone the four foot flashing dildo!

Who, me old chum Noel Edmonds... The fookin smarmy wanker !

**RDJ** · 17th October 2007, 00:53

Originally Posted by Luckylegs

That aint the half of it, you wanna try 'Head Checks' with no neck, oh,,, and dont get me started on finding a helmet that fits me properly.

But you beat the Goldwing airbag concept to market!!

**mitchilin** · 17th October 2007, 20:59

This is the same arguement with making hunters wear hi viz.I wear full camo in the bush so I won't get accidently shot.I wear black on a bike and don't assume that anyone has seen me.

**peasea** · 18th October 2007, 06:03

Originally Posted by mitchilin

This is the same arguement with making hunters wear hi viz.I wear full camo in the bush so I won't get accidently shot.I wear black on a bike and don't assume that anyone has seen me.

It pays to believe that everyone is out to kill you. I've only ever worn black leather and I'm still here; sure I might sweat a bit on a summer's day but read the reports, leather is still the best protection,

A leather jacket should be compulsory, not a helmet.

**The Stranger:Me** · 18th October 2007, 06:31

Originally Posted by peasea

It pays to believe that everyone is out to kill you. I've only ever worn black leather and I'm still here; sure I might sweat a bit on a summer's day but read the reports, leather is still the best protection,

A leather jacket should be compulsory, not a helmet.

In my experience, it isn't that cage drivers don't see you mostly.
That is just the excuse offered because they aren't going to admit to the reality, which is, they saw you but were in a hurry and figured you would yield anyway.
My 2 closest calls were cars pulling out on me whilst looking me in the face. They saw alright, perhaps they didn't like what they did see, but they saw.
Being 6'2" and wearing black leather and a black helmet helps "visibility" in these situations. Who is going to be afraid of a gay budgerigar?

As for a leather jacket being compulsory, it should be noted that more injuries happen to the body below the waist that above in motorcycle accidents.

**rocketman1** · 23rd October 2007, 19:25

Well it seems to me, from all these replies is that for most people it appears they are going to wear what they want,(visible or not), and thats the end of the story.
Hey I can understand that, but to ride without a head light on is plain dumb.
I do know that having a noisy bike, means that cages in front tend to move over for you to pass, only because they hear you , not because they see you.
I wear black as well but have a bright bike and a silver helmet with two headlights on.
You can only do so much.

**BAD DAD** · 23rd October 2007, 20:38

I understand what you are saying Rocketman1, but I note that people still pull out in front of buses and trucks, ambulances with lights & sirens blaring, and how many have been flattened by locomotives.
The trouble with hi-viz now is that it is everywhere, so a tired or lazy brain just tends to filter out all the background "noise". If you aren't looking you aren't likely to see.
Been bowled a few times in the past myself so now I try to read other road users and not just zone out once my visor goes down. Fingers crossed , headlights on and insurance up to date.