Speeding and lack of riding skills

[bmz2]

Great post, so true.

May there be many many more years of riding for all of us and many more laughs and cold beers as we share our women... er.... stories.

i'll share a beer with you , dude not my woman,shit was that you outsde my place the other day, when i came home early

[98tls]

I still don't know what this thread is about.

That does not surprise me Jim.Remember though if nothing else it couldnt possibly be accidental.

[Pancakes]

I'm reminded of an old person, complaining about the speed of drivers today and the recklessness or youth. Regardless of what you ride, the main danger is cars, stationary objects, and congestive heart failure. I'd rather get shaved by a decent rider on a sports bike than by a car or a truck.

I just don't wanna get cut up and for most of the riders I see it looks like more of a way of life than a one off where they got caught short.

The worst part of this debate (aside from losing another young guy on a bike) is that the public and the media will pounce on any excuse to point the finger at fast bikes and the "obvious" carnage that we cause. Nevermind the fact that it's mostly bikers dying from getting hit by cars.

Load of shit, most bikes crashes are single bikes. Whos fault would that be then?

Understand that there's a huge variation of riders out there, just like any interest you get people who are reckless, and those who are risk adverse.

I respect your right to express your anger on the subject, but if you want a safe hobby, suggest you might look at playing golf or knitting. Riding a cruiser for relaxation works well in the unpopulated American mid-west, but we have shit roads and terrible drivers (not helped by the poor handling cruiser itself).

Do people have to prove they're a real bad-ass by being part of a "dangerous" sport? Why can't riding be safe? If you want to risk it all and don't mind dying go to Iraq or some shit. I've been involved in rock-climbing, free diving building climbing and stunt work and pride myself on how I had the skill to things on the edge and still safely.

I ride a GSXR1000 like the young guy who lost his life this morning, I ride it with respect and care - but I also know that life is random. My sincerest condolances to his family, loved ones, and friends.

I never read the first post as referring to any specific incident except the one BMZ2 was personally involved in and why shouldn't he be pissed about it. I wish we had a 2 week gap in rider deaths so it was a more suitable time to post stuff like this was available. Hey, why not a year with out biker deaths? That'd be nice. I'm sorry too that someones parents have lost their son. The point of this thread (that I saw) was don't do the same to your parents or someone elses. AND I AGREE.

[James Deuce]

That does not surprise me Jim.Remember though if nothing else it couldnt possibly be accidental.

It wasn't by all accounts, accounts which I still haven't really unscrambled. Sounds like a bunch of people fucked up. You know, normal story.

[cowboyz]

well it seems you arent the only one. Boomer Pm'ed me to tell me he cant make sense of my posts and doesnt really care. In fact, he didnt care so much he Pmed me about no caring. That is some pretty uncaring about my posts going on there.





I'll put this bit down here and hopefully Boomer will have given up reading my post by now because of the effort that has gone into not caring about my post I would feel like a real bastard if I spoilt it for him.
The point of the thread is that some people do get offended when others ride in a dangerous manner around them. Just because a bike happens to be on SH16 that doesnt mean the rider is trying to get from one end of it to the other as fast as s/he can. Sometimes people just like to cruise. Sometimes (brace yourselves cause this is a kicker) , sometimes people like to cruise at a pace that is quicker than the speed limit allows. This doesnt mean they are racing. So next time you come across a bike (we will assume that being as you caught the bike up in the first place you are travelling faster than they are) then have a bit of thought about the way you get past.

Clear now? (except Boomer who is continuing not caring)

[98tls]

Great post, so true.

May there be many many more years of riding for all of us and many more laughs and cold beers as we share our women... er.... stories.

To me anyway thats what this thread is all about...so simple really.I sincerely hope that if nothing else the people that dont get it one day look back and chuckle when it registers.

[James Deuce]

Clear now? (except Boomer who is continuing not caring)

Much better! Cheers!

[Toaster]

i'll share a beer with you , dude not my woman,shit was that you outsde my place the other day, when i came home early

Hehe, nah mate, it's just bad form to shag someone elses Mrs. Must be another 9-rider stalker out there!

As for your beer fridge... needs emptying and so does mine!

[Shadows]

Anyone who is faster than you is a maniac and anyone who is slower is an idiot.

I thought all the slow people were homos.

[dogsnbikes]

well it seems you arent the only one. Boomer Pm'ed me to tell me he cant make sense of my posts and doesnt really care. In fact, he didnt care so much he Pmed me about no caring. That is some pretty uncaring about my posts going on there.





I'll put this bit down here and hopefully Boomer will have given up reading my post by now because of the effort that has gone into not caring about my post I would feel like a real bastard if I spoilt it for him.
The point of the thread is that some people do get offended when others ride in a dangerous manner around them. Just because a bike happens to be on SH16 that doesnt mean the rider is trying to get from one end of it to the other as fast as s/he can. Sometimes people just like to cruise. Sometimes (brace yourselves cause this is a kicker) , sometimes people like to cruise at a pace that is quicker than the speed limit allows. This doesnt mean they are racing. So next time you come across a bike (we will assume that being as you caught the bike up in the first place you are travelling faster than they are) then have a bit of thought about the way you get past.

Clear now? (except Boomer who is continuing not caring)

I agree with you mate

I came into this thread earlier and thought what the F--k is going on here nothing but nit picking tempers flaring

the point I got from the first post on here was in short respect other road user's....I think alot of people forget the basic rule of (the guy in front has right of way)

yeah its great fun chasing down the bike in front of you thats what most of us will do at some stage and there is always a time and place to do it

Cowboyz even though it took you a couple of times to explain your self too other members being someone who has ridden with you I knew what you were saying although your directions can be misleading at times I have never ever felt unsafe when out riding with you

[Toaster]

With all these comments revolving around SH16 it is no wonder our friendly Highway Patrol and STU cops patrol it with vigour.

I refer to my earlier post and it seems quite fair that bmz vent his frustration about a couple of bikers riding dangerously if he felt the need to do so - it is a forum which allows relative freedom of opinion last time I looked. Some people have very short fuses and need to see his thread what what was intended - a vent about some poor biker behaviour. Nothing more.

[The Stranger:Me]

and whilst out today i saw johnnie hero on his cruiser trying to keep up with sprot bike riders...he ran off the road.. dick head !

its not the types of bikes or specifically the people riding them.. there are idjiots across all walks of life... This thread has its fair share.

all im asking for is some tact when posting right now... why insinuate things when people are dealing with stuff they shouldn't have to?

yeah good for you mate..wd for saving your off and good on you for ranting at idiots on the road. now suck it up and move on. in fact call *555 next time.

So Boomer, how was 16 today anyway?

[Fat Tony]

As somebody who rides my local UK roads (busier than any I saw in NZ) at pace, surely the issue isn't speed... it's about building up experience and having consideration for your other road users

(RIP fallen rider)

[riffer]

Out of respect for fallen riders, and in accordance with the site rules, I've moved posts which mention that topic from this discussion. The discussion is very relevant, and important, and I hope you all continue it.

However, can you please show respect for our fallen friend and keep to the original topic.

[johnnyflash]

shit i throught i was going to hit the black stuff , 1/2 ton of bike and me and 3feet wide of bike, corner and oncoming car and 2 sports bikes overtaking me, not much road left, not feet, inches

Bmz2, If you had reacted poorly, your 1/2 ton of bike would have knocked his straight into the oncoming car, which then probably would have taken you also,
I could see it all in slow motion, they cut in front of me forcing me to brake and evade, then to my surprise, even right before the lefthander, they pulled out again and cut the Gwing off, forcing him to also hit the anchors, at that stage I was shaking my head, so was the GWing, and bugger me, now right on the tight lefthander, with oncoming traffic, they whip out pass the 109 and panic as they see the oncoming, try to cut hard left across the path of the 9, mate you not only saved at least your own life but theirs as well.... good fast reaction and decision making.. well done..