Cheesecutter campaign

[Grumpy]

Watch the video on this website
http://www.concretebarrier.org.uk/

That website speaks volumes doesn't it? Why is it that our roading engineers don't seem to have the same acesss to the same information?

Watching that video reminded me of an incident on the Auckland motorway a few years ago. I was following a car in the outside lane in what was a typically busy traffic day. A dickhead in the middle lane decided to change into the outside lane, which forced the poor bugger who was already there to swerve to the right to avoid him. When he hit the concrete barrier his car was simply bounced back in the right direction where he managed to get himself over to the shoulder and then probably had to clean up the mess in his pants. What would have happened if that was a WRB?

I'm thinking that the car would have got caught up, probably spinning at a 90deg angle then being hit by the next car ( or in this case myself on my bike) thus causing something of a serious accident. I'm only guessing but it sounds fesible doesn't it?

WeslhWizard, that video is gold.

[Nikolai_V]

Seems to me we should be demanding that the designer of these WRBs should be prosecuted for Criminal negligence, for they are fully aware that these kill motorcyclist, maim motorcyclist, and very few motorcyclist walk away unscathed from any impact with WRBs or there Posts, and as they kill with ease the installer should be held responsible also, after all it would seem that the attitude is Bugger the motorcyclist we can live with any that get killed maimed or hurt, it's all a matter of price.

On the matter of Price

Watch the video on this website
http://www.concretebarrier.org.uk/

On another note Nikolai_V states he is a Roading Engineer, does this mean he works for LTNZ or is a subcontractor doing repairs and maintenance to roads or is involved with the design and construction of new roads.

If in the employ of LTNZ then we all know where they are coming from now.

Currently with the great Satan (round here at least) Transit NZ... previously MWH (consultants), Fulton Hogan (Contractors) and an unnamed local council. been there done that, even had to go and evaluate fatal crash sites from a technical perspective and perform safety audits on new construction.

Slippery slope that mate. Even the stats quoted on here admit that only half the time is the other motorist at fault, have you seen that movie - the man who sued god?

On teh subject of LTNZ, there are quite a few active motorcyclists in LTNZ, esp in the South Island - believe me thsi is a topic which comes up over drinks....

[WelshWizard]

Double post some how

[WelshWizard]

Slippery slope that mate. Even the stats quoted on here admit that only half the time is the other motorist at fault, have you seen that movie - the man who sued god?

But it worked in the end

[MSTRS:Me]

... have you seen that movie - the man who sued god?

But it worked in the end

Great movie. Based on a true story. And one where either outcome would have been a win.
In our case, though, there can be only one outcome that is acceptable. Because if Transit don't exist, where does that leave us?

[Ixion]

Great movie. Based on a true story. And one where either outcome would have been a win.
In our case, though, there can be only one outcome that is acceptable. Because if Transit don't exist, where does that leave us?

Grubbing up cheesecutters? And celebrating.

We did after all manage very well before Transit existed.

[MSTRS:Me]

Grubbing up cheesecutters? And celebrating.

We did after all manage very well before Transit existed.

If transit don't exist, then yes, we will have to remove the fkn things ourselves...working bee, anyone?

[sunhuntin]

If transit don't exist, then yes, we will have to remove the fkn things ourselves...working bee, anyone?

you give me a power tool strong enough to cut those damned ropes, and ill take the whole central districts area... paraparas and as far south as sanson.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

you give me a power tool strong enough to cut those damned ropes, and ill take the whole central districts area... paraparas and as far south as sanson.

You don't need to much gear. You can buy wire rope guillotines. You need a solid base for them to sit on and you hit it with a sledge Hammer. Just measure the length of stand you need to sit it on and away you go. An 18 volt angle grinder should do it easy as. Not hard to damage them I wouldn't think. But I wouldn't know.

[swbarnett]

You don't need to much gear. You can buy wire rope guillotines. You need a solid base for them to sit on and you hit it with a sledge Hammer. Just measure the length of stand you need to sit it on and away you go. An 18 volt angle grinder should do it easy as. Not hard to damage them I wouldn't think. But I wouldn't know.

Just be careful of the whiplash when the tension is released. It'd be worse than slap with a whales tail..

[RiderInBlack]

Would be able ta run a few posts down with a truck

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Just be careful of the whiplash when the tension is released. It'd be worse than slap with a whales tail..

True so you need to stand in front of the cut area so they pull away from you. It could kill you or take a limb off if you cut it and get hit by the rope. It takes a good clean whack with a heavy sledgehammer to get a clean cut with the guillotine so you will be standing in a safe place.

But it is not the way to stop these CC yet. Lets try the public support and political method first. No luck there then we need to be more proactive........... What ever that means........... So who reads this thread anyway??????

[swbarnett]

But it is not the way to stop these CC yet. Lets try the public support and political method first.

Indeed. Fun to think about it though.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

K enough of the fun stuff. Can we pick a date to gather the Petition please. Then we can organize a ride to hand it over. If we give plenty of notice we should be able to get people to take time off work and ride with us. We need a big turn out for this one. Make this the one that counts. Get the media along. I know you will want it to be a quiet ride like the last 3 but that does not sell News Papers. However I know most people will not come on a ride if it is not strictly controlled. So lets get some ideas going here.

[sAsLEX]

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