Top cop says bikers are incompetant and pissed

**Ixion** · 3rd December 2007, 15:24

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/articl...=newsmain,nrhl

BRONZ will be questioning Mr Tooman on the basis for his allegations.

Comments ?

**marioc** · 3rd December 2007, 15:28

yeah right?

**Cajun** · 3rd December 2007, 15:29

technology as moved on bikes can stop, handle better than what they did before, and whats wrong with having a drink,

didn't really seam to say much about the cars on wrong side of road there, or the god knows how many DIC on other vehicles same roads in same time.

**Swoop** · 3rd December 2007, 15:30

"An appalling weekend road toll has police pleading for drivers to pay attention.

Waikato road policing manager Leo Tooman says it appears drivers were on the wrong side of the road in at least two crashes in his area over the weekend.

Mr Tooman is also worried about a series of motorcycle crashes. He says a large number of "born-again" motorcyclists are coming down from Auckland to cruise Coromandel and Waikato roads.

Mr Tooman says technology has moved on a bit since they last rode. He says that, coupled with stopping at the odd cafe to enjoy a beer, can be a recipe for disaster. "

He clearly states that drivers were on the wrong side of the road in 50% of the incidents, then mentions beer, without providing any facts about any alcohol being involved in any incidents.

The septic tank theory works well here.
Only the biggest turds get to the top.

**yungatart** · 3rd December 2007, 15:30

Ah, i see.
If some tourist forgets whiich side of the road to drive on, then of course the motorcyclist he hit must be an aged, pissed rider.
If some cop decides to do a u turn on a decidedly questionable area and two riders hit him, then again they must be pissed and aged.
Yes it all makes perfect sense to me now.
Please thank Mr Tooman for his valuable contribution to road safety and also for clearing that issue up for me.

**Nasty** · 3rd December 2007, 15:31

This would of course explain the fatalities down south and the others who were hit by a police car ... HOW ????

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 3rd December 2007, 15:32

Originally Posted by Ixion

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/articl...=newsmain,nrhl

BRONZ will be questioning Mr Tooman on the basis for his allegations.

Originally Posted by from Article

Mr Tooman says technology has moved on a bit since they last rode. He says that, coupled with stopping at the odd cafe to enjoy a beer, can be a recipe for disaster.

Maybe I should stop drinking my coffee at the cafes I visit. Then again I'm not a born again rider, I never really stopped. I personally believe it should be zero tolarance for alchol and driving... One day I can have a beer and be fine, a week later have a beer and am over the limit yet feel fine...

For me just makes it easier to not drink if I am still going to be riding... then at the rally site or at home during the evening I'll have a drink or 5. I have no problem with that...

**Usarka** · 3rd December 2007, 15:32

And the cops complain when we call them cunts.

**spudchucka** · 3rd December 2007, 15:40

You bunch of cry babies seem to have an uncanny ability to take what is obviously a generalised comment very personally.

**crashe** · 3rd December 2007, 15:40

Ixion - Please inform that git, Mr Tooman, that this rider only drinks 'hot chocolate' or 'coke cola' at cafe's.

I am one rider who NEVER touches booze when riding my bike.

Maybe he could look at how many drunk drivers were picked up recently driving around in their cars with young children in them.
Maybe he could catch all the drunks right outside the pubs as the pubs close.....

**PeteJ** · 3rd December 2007, 15:41

Have a look at the ride reports on KB about the Coromandel loop, the reported crashes, the reported "had a beer"s, and then wonder whether Toomath reads here, as well.

He also echoing observations by lots of members on this and other forums about born-again riders, as well as reporting what his officers tell him.

Doesn't it strike you that he must see and have reported to him a lot more of what goes on on the roads than any one of us does?

**johnnyflash** · 3rd December 2007, 15:48

Originally Posted by Ixion

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/articl...=newsmain,nrhl

BRONZ will be questioning Mr Tooman on the basis for his allegations.

Comments ?

Un-substantiated, ill informed utterings like that, deserve no respect at all, maybe his superiors would like to send him on a communucations course, or put him back on the beat where his feet will serve him better than his mouth..
Sure there are a few idiots around but the life long older bikers and the so called born again variety who may have been off a bike a couple of years dont hold any truck with drink and drive, and as for bikes being better than before, so ? havent cars also improved, !! whats the big deal, as some one else pointed out, yep at least the breaks work now and they dont shake you off the bike at 100kph, Yes ive seen the odd comment around by younger bikers that seem to enjoy coro and beers, doesnt make em all irresponsible and drink drivers. show me the stats where born again (I read bikers with some experience) have all these accidents, Ive ridden all my life (40 odd years) and dont find many of the so called born again much under 40 years old, and mostly I would have to say they were a good responsible bunch, (probably whats kept em alive all these years).