Wellington says no to bikes on footpath.

[Drum]

Well they refused to let me off the last ticket for parking on the footpath. Apparently my bike is so heavy it will damage the services below. Yeah right.

[Dodger]

Well they refused to let me off the last ticket for parking on the footpath. Apparently my bike is so heavy it will damage the services below. Yeah right.

Hmmm. My Side stand has left a nice indent where I park. on the plus side I can always park in the same location

As for damaging the services, Sounds like crap if you ask me.

[James Deuce]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4388957a11.html

Public admission that there aren't enough bike parks.

Whatever next!

[Kendog]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4388957a11.html

Public admission that there aren't enough bike parks.

Whatever next!

"Since early December, however, wardens had been told to issue tickets only if they found a scooter obstructing pedestrian access or creating a safety hazard."

Does that actually mean we can park on the footpath again, if out of the way?
But only scooters??

Interesting

[Nasty]

"Since early December, however, wardens had been told to issue tickets only if they found a scooter obstructing pedestrian access or creating a safety hazard."

Does that actually mean we can park on the footpath again, if out of the way?
But only scooters??

Interesting

I wouldn't .. I don't some warden giving me a ticket at their descretion ....

[mowgli]

I wouldn't mind so long as there was some way you could tell that they'd exercised their discretion. If I came back to my bike and found a cautionary sticker telling me I was pushing it with my choice of parking slot then I'd be more considerate next time. If I find nothing then how am I to know how close I came to a ticket and why would I do any different next time? Perhaps we should suggest this to Parkwise.

[Clockwork]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4388957a11.html

Public admission that there aren't enough bike parks.

Whatever next!

Yeah but they must have known that there wern't enough bike parks when all the bike partks were full and people were having to park on the footpath, it's not as if the bike parks were all empty!!

Also, the line... "The city has 3200 on-street car parks and 340 two-wheeled vehicle parks - about one motorbike park for every 10 car parks." seems a bit disingenuous, I suspect this figure includes the coupon parking area where as far as I know there are no bike parks rather than just the CBD parking? (regardless, bikers arn't going to want to stroll into the city from the inner suburbs in their riding gear et al). but then of course, CBD street parking for cars is short term whereas bike parks are frequently occupied all day. Also, while there may be plenty of off road parking for cars (for a price) there is precious little for bikes.

Quite simply, they plainly didn't give these matters any thought at all when they decided to start acting this way, I wonder if they were distracted by all those dollar signs dancing in front of their eyes!!

[Chad]

My dad recently got a ticket on a footpath near his work on Willis street, and bein a bike he was pretty annoyed. Rides his bike to save petrol, emmisions and parking, and still gets a ticket. But he had a feeling that the footpath where he was parked was actually owned by the building it ran in front of, there for meaning the council had no durisdiction or right to give tickets. He wrote to a number of people at the council and just about everybody started avoiding and dodging him, and it was pretty obvious they had screwed up and weren't willing to admit it. In due course the ticket got cancelled.

Not sayin I recommend parking on footpaths to see if you can get away with it, but if you do get a ticket, could be worth looking into who's property you are actually parked on. I know for example that at the cafe I work at, we own the footpath infront of the front windows as far out as the building support columns protrude, if that makes sense. Its only half a meter or so, but it just shows, and many places could own a lot more...

[marsha]

My understanding is that WCC contracts Parkwise to do that job. That way they don't get their hands dirty. But WCC still make the rules. I got ticketed for parking on footpath - i left heaps of room a buggy or wheelchair could get past. I've taken a photo of my scooter parked there and will try to get the ticket revoked. I won't feel I've done enough if I don't make a statement against it. Certaily sounds like revenue generating. Grrr

[Nasty]

My understanding is that WCC contracts Parkwise to do that job. That way they don't get their hands dirty. But WCC still make the rules. I got ticketed for parking on footpath - i left heaps of room a buggy or wheelchair could get past. I've taken a photo of my scooter parked there and will try to get the ticket revoked. I won't feel I've done enough if I don't make a statement against it. Certaily sounds like revenue generating. Grrr

Thats the right way to do it .. shows that the ticketer used NO descretion.

[Dakar]

Did anyone go to the Ride to Work day last March? Wellington City deputy mayor, Ian McKinnon, said that at peak times there were around 600 motorcycle and scooter commuters coming into the city every hour. “This represents a 40 per cent increase in just one year. Adequate parking for this special group is high on our planning agenda,”

Excuse me?.......little did we know that "high on his planning" was to gain further revenue from commuters,

This stinks, our local authority is nothing more than highwaymen,

MTA Spokesman Andy Cuming spoke of the benefits of biking to work and said, “There has been an enormous growth in the popularity of this form of transport, and this has a number of far-reaching implications in terms of fuel savings, emissions reduction, and traffic planning.”

Well well well, i feel a letter to Mr (if you can call him that) McKinnon coming on,
Pricks....

[Lurch]

woah major post necro, new discussion thisaway http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...d.php?t=106738

[akshay argade]

hi guys,
i am in auckland, the other day i indicated left at an intersection , went on the footpath , rode 15 20 m to a safe place on the footpath to park my motorcycle, a cop saw this and fined me nzd 150 and gave me 25 demerits..this is rediculous. i told him m i allowed to park my motorcycle on footpath, he said yea, i asked him how am i supposed to get my bike on footpath?
he said climb the curb. i told him thats going to damage my bike, maybe id fall off too..
he didnt say anything
i am not ready to pay that fine.. i have mailed police infringement wellington abt this..
this is crazy..
all i did was took my bike on footpath , rode 15 m to park it safe and i get these fines..?
it was on queens street next to borders...has anyone experienced this/

[Ixion]

Riding on footpath does not have demerits.

here, for reference is the list of all demerit offences ranked by ascending ouchiness

10 demerits
Person produces logbook with 1–5 omissions
Drive in emergency stopping lane

20 demerits
Person produces logbook with 6–10 omissions
Fail to drive as near as practicable to the left of the roadway
Fail to allow impeded traffic to pass
Passing at school crossing point or pedestrian crossing
Fail to comply with handheld stop sign
Fail to comply with school patrol sign
Driver fails to stop at stop sign
Driver fails to give way at stop sign
Driver fails to give way at give-way sign
Driver of vehicle changing lanes or turning fails to give way to vehicle not changing lanes or turning
Driver of left-turning vehicle fails to give way to an approaching right-turning vehicle
Driver at intersection fails to give-way to vehicle approaching from right
Driver fails to give way to road user on footpath when entering/exiting driveway
Driver entering roundabout fails to give way
Exceed speed for stopping distance
Exceed speed for stopping distance on road not marked in lanes
Drive too close to vehicle in front
Driver permits riding dangerously
Driver uses mobile phone while driving a vehicle
Driver fails to give way to rail vehicle approaching level crossing
Drive etc, cycle, vehicle, or animal across level crossing when risk of collision with rail vehicle
Fail to comply with stop sign at level crossing
Fail to remain stationary at stop sign until level crossing clear
Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when red signal displayed
Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when barrier arm lowered

25 demerits
Drives a motor vehicle contrary to the conditions of his or her driver licence
Failure to display L plate as required
Use of unauthorised, deceptive, or obscured plates
Driver fails to give way at give-way sign controlling a one-way section of road
Operate vehicle that creates excessive noise
Create excessive noise within or on vehicle
Drive or ride all terrain vehicle, motorcycle, or moped without securely fastened approved helmet
Drive or ride all terrain vehicle, motorcycle, or moped with damaged, etc, safety helmet
Failure to operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system that complies with relevant noise output standards

30 Demerits
Person produces logbook with 11 or more omissions

35 demerits
Careless or inconsiderate use of motor vehicle
Failure to stop on request or signal of an enforcement officer, or on being followed by motor vehicle displaying flashing blue, or blue and red, lights or sounding a siren
Failure to remain stopped for an enforcement officer,
Driving or attempting to drive when forbidden by an enforcement officer
Person fails to produce logbook
Drives motor vehicle contrary to the conditions of his or her driver licence
Unsafe passing
Impeding vehicle when passing
Passing to right of no-passing line
Driver fails to give way at pedestrian crossing
Driver enters pedestrian crossing when passage blocked
Driver of vehicle fails to give way to pedestrian on shared zone
Requirement to produce approved alternative record to an enforcement officer on demand
Vehicle recovery service vehicles (requirement to complete and retain tow authorities)
Requirement on driver or contractor working within an alternative fatigue management scheme to keep records

50 demerits
Person younger than 20 driving or attempting to drive with excessive breath-alcohol
Failure or refusal—
(a) to wait for the result of a breath screening test or an evidential breath test
(b) to accompany an enforcement officer when so required
to remain for evidential breath test or blood test

And speeding :
speed limit fixed is exceeded by not more than 10 km/h 10
speed limit fixed is exceeded by more than 10 km/h but not more than 20 km/h 20
speed limit fixed is exceeded by more than 20 km/h but not more than 30 km/h 35
speed limit fixed is exceeded by more than 30 km/h but not more than 35 km/h 40
speed limit fixed is exceeded by more than 35 km/h 50

es, there are a lot of them. I've simplified the descvrriptions a bit.

Drives vehicle on footpath is just $150 fine. I park by Borders often. Never had a problem.

[breakaway]

hi guys,
i am in auckland, the other day i indicated left at an intersection , went on the footpath , rode 15 20 m to a safe place on the footpath to park my motorcycle, a cop saw this and fined me nzd 150 and gave me 25 demerits..this is rediculous. i told him m i allowed to park my motorcycle on footpath, he said yea, i asked him how am i supposed to get my bike on footpath?
he said climb the curb. i told him thats going to damage my bike, maybe id fall off too..
he didnt say anything
i am not ready to pay that fine.. i have mailed police infringement wellington abt this..
this is crazy..
all i did was took my bike on footpath , rode 15 m to park it safe and i get these fines..?
it was on queens street next to borders...has anyone experienced this/

25 demerits and a $150 fine? Sounds like you breached your licence conditions there. Quit lying and come clean about what actually happened, and what reason the cop has actually written on the ticket and someone here might be able to help you.