Dome Valley 80kph speed limit

[sunhuntin]

where abouts is this road, exactly?

[Bren]

where abouts is this road, exactly?

Dome Valley starts just north of Warkworth on SH1 heading towards Wellsford.
When I lived up that way back in the late 80s to early 90s it was a road I hated.
I drove it also at the start of this year. Yes it has improved but is still a stretch I believe that needs some caution.

[Bren]

Are you high and if so change your dealer man cause you're on some bad shit!
The road is fine,never have had an issue with that road...ever!
Surely you've mistaken the road
It's the attitudes need to change!

I'll be riding it tomorrow too...100 demerits to sort out

gee thanks for the psych report there....I DON'T DO DRUGS, I HAVE NOT MISTAKEN THE ROAD......and yes I do agree its attitudes that need to change....Attitudes towards speeding, reckless driving/riding etc and attitudes toward other road users!
Get a grip man, either ya drive/ride to survive or we will be reading your name in the obituaries...

[kb_SF1]

The road is ok as far as our roads go, 80 ks will become a revenue gathering exercise with no thought to road safety or improvement.

[Drum]

I used to be a crash investigator in Auckland and I lost track of the number of callouts to the Dome Valley. Don't recall ever going to one that involved a bike though. Majority were inappropriate overtaking and drivers losing control/ cornering too fast. Problem is that there is no runoff area - i.e. If you leave the road you hit a tree - no room for error.

Reducing the speed limit may be inconvenient for bikers, but I would wager a months salary that the number of cage crashes decreases.

[swbarnett]

drive/ride to survive

This I will never do! Just surviving is for automotons. I choose to ride to LIVE!

[swbarnett]

Problem is that there is no runoff area - i.e. If you leave the road you hit a tree - no room for error.

And this is, of course, why they put cheese cutters on the left. I'd rather tackle a tree.

Reducing the speed limit may be inconvenient for bikers, but I would wager a months salary that the number of cage crashes decreases.

You could be right but I doubt it. The problem is impatience, not speed. slowing down the majority of traffic is only going to make the impatient idiots even more impatient.

[Drum]

.... The problem is impatience, not speed. slowing down the majority of traffic is only going to make the impatient idiots even more impatient.

Hence the inappropriate overtaking, but experience shows that reducing the speed limit almost always reduces both the likelihood and severity of crashes (for cages anyway). Time will tell.

[swbarnett]

Hence the inappropriate overtaking, but experience shows that reducing the speed limit almost always reduces both the likelihood and severity of crashes (for cages anyway). Time will tell.

I honestly hope you're right. If it does turn out that way it'd be interesting to figure out the mechanism.

Just thinking... The idiot overtaking on a blind corner will do the same speed regardless of speed limit. If you're slower coming around the bend toward them it will still be easier to avoid the head-on. Food for thought...

[T.I.E]

bloody taking the fun out of every road.
i used to live in Mahurangi west Rd. id ride the road through to wenderholm, hatsfields then orewa when the road was 100kph. oh so much fun was had, then it went down to 80kph because of the aucklanders not knowing what to do when they came to a corner. Yes im an EX JAFA. but still a jafa.
i used to pick up people off the side of barriers and the ones trying to drive into the sea. some of the accidents were nasty.
Then the limit dropped to 80kph. but i was still picking them up i didnt notice the accident rate drop, all though im sure it did.
bring back 100kph. the dome is, was so much fun.

[Drum]

....
Then the limit dropped to 80kph. but i was still picking them up i didnt notice the accident rate drop, all though im sure it did.....

Yeah, it did - by around 20 to 30% if I remember correctly. Thereby setting the precedent.

Incidentally, rear wheel drive V6 and V8 vehicles were heavily over represented in crashes in the "Windy Ridge" area you are talking about. Perhaps reinforcing your Jafa comment.

[The Stranger:Me]

Reducing the speed limit may be inconvenient for bikers, but I would wager a months salary that the number of cage crashes decreases.

Oh I am sure you are correct, however, if they drop it to 70 they will probably decrease the number of crashes even further hell why not 60 or 50.

My pont was, what exactly is our open road speed limit?
Sure they put this section down to 80kph (like so many spots before), then if it is effective, somewhere else becomes the top of the hit list and gets slapped with the fix - and so on and so on.
There is nothing to say they that once they are done getting 80kph everywhere and dome moves back to the top of the list they wont start on a round of 60kph stretches.
Transit are only too aware of the specific engineering problems there, they need to fix the problems, not band aid them.

[maxlev]

Can't say I've noticed anything dangerous about this road in the 30 years I have been regularly travelling over it on 2 wheels.

Oh hang on, I did run wide once on the left hander (with the bump) heading north just past the big Purriri tree. But it was on a TT100 shod Kwaka 500 triple, or was it the Titan 500, one or the other.

But if a reduction makes it easier for cage operators to txt and rummage around in the glove box then LTSA may feel happier.

Any road can be dangerous if you are not observant and aware of you surroundings, aint that right Andy Knackstead.

[DMNTD:Me]

gee thanks for the psych report there....I DON'T DO DRUGS, I HAVE NOT MISTAKEN THE ROAD......and yes I do agree its attitudes that need to change....Attitudes towards speeding, reckless driving/riding etc and attitudes toward other road users!
Get a grip man, either ya drive/ride to survive or we will be reading your name in the obituaries...

Well maybe you should try drugs then because if you think that that road was dangerous when ridden/driven at 100kmph then you're mad...or can't ride well enough to be safe on our roads which makes YOU the danger,not the road.

[Ascott]

What DMNTD, said. can't them quote thingies.