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    Angry Australia to bug bikes?

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...1-8362,00.html

    I know some of you will just love this....

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    Connect it to a GPS and you don't need the cop at all.

    Nice wee letter from a call centre in Delli would be the first you'd know...
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    Time checks between two fixed speed cameras.

    Known distance / time, = average speed.

    So even if you slow down for both cameras, whammo you get a ticket based on speed between two cameras.

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    they are going to bug bikes... uhhuh... so what about your average joe with some mechanical knowlege? #snip snip# done, no more bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyLuka View Post
    they are going to bug bikes... uhhuh... so what about your average joe with some mechanical knowlege? #snip snip# done, no more bug.
    And your average traffic patrol with a receiver. Hmm no signal.... #whoop whoop# busted, no more cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Time checks between two fixed speed cameras.

    Known distance / time, = average speed.

    So even if you slow down for both cameras, whammo you get a ticket based on speed between two cameras.
    Don't even need the camera dude, just strategically placed sensors to read the chip. Solution is simple: stop regularly for a break.

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    if thay put something in by bike i dont want its comeing off ASAP.
    how will thay know if u dont have it in.
    sounds dumb to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    Time checks between two fixed speed cameras.

    Known distance / time, = average speed.

    So even if you slow down for both cameras, whammo you get a ticket based on speed between two cameras.
    NICE!

    Unfortunately your idea breaks every convention of 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' ever made. Reasonable doubt is reason we have cameras - there needs to be proof that the bike was in that location at the time stated and doing that speed.

    It's not good enough to say "hey we know you speed, now pay". You have to get caught.

    Otherwise we might as well have a chip in the bike that records every time the bike exceeds 100ks and it gets read once a month along with the gas/electricity metre. Fines just get added to the monthly bill. Easy!

    There more holes to poke at I'm sure, but that wont stop someone in government from adopting your idea. Huwa!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue eyed savage View Post
    if thay put something in by bike i dont want its comeing off ASAP.
    how will thay know if u dont have it in.
    sounds dumb to me
    Simple - they put receivers in the patrol cars. When you ride past - no indicator showing that you have the 'chip' then you are busted.

    Whats to bet that the fines will be equal to the cost of a small island in the caribbean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnzoYug View Post
    Unfortunately your idea breaks every convention of 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' ever made. Reasonable doubt is reason we have cameras - there needs to be proof that the bike was in that location at the time stated and doing that speed.
    Don't know what the heck you're on about... an impossible average speed between to points is beyond reasonable doubt... Unless you've a magical bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnzoYug View Post
    NICE!

    Unfortunately your idea breaks every convention of 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' ever made.
    Where've you been dude? it's already fatally cracked.

    "Estimated to have been traveling at..." has been good enough for a conviction for some time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Simple - they put receivers in the patrol cars. When you ride past - no indicator showing that you have the 'chip' then you are busted.

    Whats to bet that the fines will be equal to the cost of a small island in the caribbean?
    And that you will likely now have no bike to worry about whether it has a 'bug in it or not..
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    Brings a whole new meaning to the possibilities in the term "re-chip" don't it...
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    Good luck trying to put such a device on some of my bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnzoYug View Post
    NICE!

    Unfortunately your idea breaks every convention of 'proven beyond reasonable doubt' ever made. Reasonable doubt is reason we have cameras - there needs to be proof that the bike was in that location at the time stated and doing that speed.

    It's not good enough to say "hey we know you speed, now pay". You have to get caught.

    Otherwise we might as well have a chip in the bike that records every time the bike exceeds 100ks and it gets read once a month along with the gas/electricity metre. Fines just get added to the monthly bill. Easy!

    There more holes to poke at I'm sure, but that wont stop someone in government from adopting your idea. Huwa!
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    So where's the reasonable doubt at a drink driving checkpoint? The vast majority of people who are processed have never deliberately gone out of their way to break any laws, but the Government are suspicious that they are recidivist drunk drivers who don't wear seatbelts and beat their children. So civil rights are suspended while a checkpoint is up.

    The same logic will be applied to the "speeding" issue. As the "official" in the document stated speed is a big factor in motorcycle crashes (in their opinion of course - intersections and group rides are far more dangerous than riding "handily" on your own) so we can justify monitoring the whereabouts of our "citizens".

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