Australia to bug bikes?

[SPman]

Being trialed in Queensland - the state that brought in the requirement of having to have a car license for a year, before you can get a bike license!

[EnzoYug]

Don't know what the heck you're on about... an impossible average speed between to points is beyond reasonable doubt... Unless you've a magical bike?

Yup - mine does corners!

Ok here's a diagram, (ignoring the reality of one-way streets / realistic speed) and if it doesn't make sense then forget I said anything at all....

[Tank]

Depends on how and where they place them.

But they are there and they work (well for the police anyhows).

This is what they use for the same thing in the UK:

http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/SPECS.htm

The only difference is that this uses your numberplace - Aust are getting V2 that also registers a chip so bikes with no frontmounted numberplace can be pinged also.

[Tank]

to save you clicking on the link:

SPECS average speed cameras are fitted either at the roadside or in the central reservation (as pictured below) a set distance apart to create a speed controlled zone, or where appropriate, groups of cameras can be linked to create a speed controlled network.

As vehicles pass between the entry and exit camera points their number plates are digitally recorded, whether speeding or not. Then, by ANPR recognition, the images on the video of matching number plates are paired up, and because each image carries a date and time stamp, the computer can then work out your average speed between the cameras. There is no film used for SPECS.

and here is a great quote from how useful this system is in Manchester (yes just the one city): Quote from the manufactures of SPECS system:

"The SPECS system is so efficient and user friendly that Manchester CTO processed 2,500 offences in 6 man-hours"."

[Ixion]

Some other nasty notiuons here (Just search for 'motorcycle')

[Tank]

reading more about them - they REALLY work - in fact this system has caught the most speeders in the UK - from the FAQ on the above site"

Which UK speed camera has caught the most motorists?

A single speed camera in Nottinghamshire has caught almost 76,000 motorists in five years. The SPECS speed camera, on the A610, has caught almost a third of the speeding drivers in the county and has resulted in £4.2m in fines. The SPECS "time-over-distance" cameras measures how long it takes to pass between two points on a road, read read more about SPECS speed cameras.

[avgas]

And your average traffic patrol with a receiver. Hmm no signal.... #whoop whoop# busted, no more cash.

Silly man, its the same now......no identification.....why stop for them?

[Deano]

The best thing to do is buy a smaller bike.

Or go racing. Then you can go nuts.

[Usarka]

Silly man, its the same now......no identification.....why stop for them?

The reciever in the cop car tells them who you are. So if you do a runner they've effectively got your plate number....

Same if your riding in the opposite direction at 160km/hr. Radar + tagged id = bye bye licence without the need for a chase.....

[imdying]

Yup - mine does corners!

Ok here's a diagram, (ignoring the reality of one-way streets / realistic speed) and if it doesn't make sense then forget I said anything at all....

Riiight... I'm not what point that makes? In that example, it's going to be getting between those two points in 1 minute that they're going to be interested in. All that picture shows is a situation where their tracking method is going to be ineffective.

[quallman1234]

Simple - they put receivers in the patrol cars. When you ride past - no indicator showing that you have the 'chip' then you are busted.

Whats to bet that the fines will be equal to the cost of a small island in the caribbean?

Make a switch, not hard.

[Ixion]

The reciever in the cop car tells them who you are. So if you do a runner they've effectively got your plate number....

Same if your riding in the opposite direction at 160km/hr. Radar + tagged id = bye bye licence without the need for a chase.....

My understanding is that the SPECs system uses visual number plate identification - ie a camera reads the number plate and a computer matches up the image with a number plate database.

RFID tags do not (at present anyway) have anything like the range for that scenario. Also, if they did have a long enough range, very often there would be more than one tag in range, and no way to tell which tag belonged to the radar reading. In theory, repeat theory, in a lab, UHF passive RF tags can manage about 20 feet range. But in practice , much less, probably only inches. It also depends enormously on the material in the surroundings, and whether there is some sort of antenna or not.

[avgas]

The reciever in the cop car tells them who you are. So if you do a runner they've effectively got your plate number....

Same if your riding in the opposite direction at 160km/hr. Radar + tagged id = bye bye licence without the need for a chase.....

Info on receiver is only as good as the packet being sent.....ever broken a radio....its not too difficult

[avgas]

RFID tags do not (at present anyway) have anything like the range for that scenario.

RFID does not like going faster than 2m/sec so we are fairly safe there.
Most RFID setups have a slow conveyor or even a dead stop (eg bag stop at the end of a shoot) to verify the data.
The fastest i have ever seen RFID work was about 4m/sec.....even then it had about a 40% failure rate.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Connect it to a GPS and you don't need the cop at all.

Nice wee letter from a call centre in Delli would be the first you'd know...

for every technological thing like this there is somebody somewhere who can fix or jam or bugger it up or make it read like all you've done is gone to work and back instead of doing 280kph down colombo street on the back wheel sculling a bottle of gin and hitting blind autistic schoolkids and their pets with a polo mallet.