Azzurro!
jim2 & steam; from what i've read of your last post...what? are you just gonna roll over & take it? what kinda victim mindset have you got?!?
I don't agree at all with your posts. but i won't "red rep" you cos i'm sure you'd do anything but "roll over & take" that.
yeh sure, take yer punishment. prob is, adjusting the punishments isn't the answer, is it?
"Fit a front tyre you love, and put something round & black on the back"Il Dottore
Kiwi back at home!
umm to me this is better!Originally Posted by emaN
I pay less! Yes the Govt is now asking for LESS MONEY! When will they ever do that? (except for the run up to an election when they will bribe votes and then take it back 6 months later with the addition of additional taxes.....)
But I haven't had a ticket in years. Do I ever drive under the speed limit? (Barring suburban roads and near schools etc....) Out on the open road if you are aware and helpful people flash and you speed in appropriate areas, IE NOT SH16, then you can live with the odd 50 buck ticket, rather than 120 etc
Freakin' hippy
Oh, and for all you National-loving "John Key can bend me over anytime" types, just watch as National gets in and then.... does nothing at all to remedy this so-called "injustice".
And correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Labour just REDUCE the fines? Reduced the fines and increased the demerits. I don't see how a whole bunch of you are whining about how Labour are doing this to fill their coffers.
Determined to kill my bike before it kills me
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Post #16 in the 'zx10r wheelie' thread in the Sport/Road Bike section is a prime example of the shit that goes on on our roads that has resulted in the introduction of these new rules.
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No it's not. Motorcycles are not really on the political radar. Even though some of us do naughty things, we're not that many in number. It is the boi-racers who have whistled up the wind. Hence the emphasis on youff. The speeding hit is simply because the cops are finding it harder to meet their ticket quota (which is expressed in tickets issued, not dollars, though indirectly they get the dollars)
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What? When did I support the current Government? Did you read the post immediately after the one you're obviously annoyed about? I'm at a loss to try and understand just what you are losing with the more demerits less money scheme. It's always been illegal to speed. You get caught you get punished. Thus has it always been. Put your energy into something that has a "win" for all of us like the Cheesecutter campaign.
The reason they've dropped the fines to lower levels and raised the demerits is because people just don't pay fines anymore.
Red rep away fella! Make sure you put an interesting comment next to it, not the normal illiterate spleen vent made up entirely of consonants that seem to make up red rep comments. I'm not really that disturbed by people disagreeing with me, though it would be nice to think that they are disagreeing with what I wrote, not what they think I wrote after a nano-second skim read.
You've read stuff I've posted on here over the years. I've consistently supported/insisted on the introduction of meaningful driver education as the only way to improve our currently plateaued/possibly increasing road toll. Getting "angry" about speeding tickets costing less is going to make "us" look a bit frigging dumb if you all insist on whinging about it.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Last of a dying breed
And when all this does not change a thing, then the next thing is a chip in the puter of your machine that limits the speed. Add to that a sender in any 50 and 70 area that will adjust the speed for you. Trust me, it is coming. But by then I will be long gone to a place where I can forever ride the free roads of the 60's and 70's at full speed...
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Speed limiters won't be introduced at all. Privately owned personal transport will be a thing of the past and the 150 years from the 1890s to 2040 or so will be viewed as a mass delusion - humans driving privately maintained vehicles at speeds more than 50km/hr, only mere metres apart? Madness! No wonder they died in droves!
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
You recon that this lot of morons could legislate anything of intelligence?
The Dog-chippling law that has caused ALL dog attacks to cease...
The "Gag any form of opposition to labourite thinking" oops - "Electoral finance bill"...
See above.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Hardcore Biker
The revenue argument is not gone... it's just moving to other targets, getting a bigger net out they are - swings and roundabouts.
Anyone noticed the 6 mth campaign by Police on behalf of the Govt to slap fines on light drinking drivers - it has about 60% support now - another few mths and it'll be a critical mass then Govt will make a pre election announcement. Grr - even more time hanging out at checkpoint taxing instead of patrolling to intercept / remove
serious star 555's.
Now I don't know if it's been mentioned as thread too long for me to go all way back - but someone said what about training. Didn't the safe as consultations focus on that - yep, and the policy statements did too. But the excellent staff involved ended down the road - in the mode of other civil servants lately - for impertinence.
In the Press release I got today it said the doubled learner period can revert to the same as it is today if an approved driver course is taken - like defensive driving. I expected this initiative to be subsidised but no such announcement was there about that. So they're talking defensive not advanced skills. Sounds like you will sdtill not learn to control skids etc
PS - yes it will be JIM2. The Govts 2040 statement make very clear that in future private motorised travel will be a luxury.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Speaking with someone who has a "bit of knowledge" on this issue...
Cages will be able to be controlled "en-masse" within 10 years.
Driver input can be zero.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
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Precisely what I'm saying. We won't be doing the driving. Bikes are too difficult to control as consistently as the current car paradigm, so they won't be playing in traffic I reckon.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Just faidin away!
Saw Harry D on the news tonight, he seemed to be impressed with his tough guy impression.
I was less than impressed, they have a problem with boi racers, so the focus on the rest of the motoring world!
Sure Harry boi, that will show them yuh mean business all right....yah bloody
....Bemused, John.
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Quote: "Training only makes drivers over confident..."
Supt Dave Cliff - Whangarei SafeAss meeting
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Well, it's only a matter of time until they decide they have the same problem with motorcyclists.
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