Driving penalties to get tougher

[James Deuce]

Quote: "Training only makes drivers over confident..."
Supt Dave Cliff - Whangarei roadsafe meeting

He's not the only one.

[Pixie]

Getting "angry" about speeding tickets costing less is going to make "us" look a bit frigging dumb if you all insist on whinging about it.

Costing less?
what is the cost of a lost licence over a few 112 km speeding offenses?

[McJim]

Isn't Skidmark lucky he's committing all of his offences before this legislation gets passed!

[James Deuce]

Costing less?
what is the cost of a lost licence over a few 112 km speeding offenses?

That's not even a discussion point. Max open road speed limit is 100km/hr.

[Bonez]

You're getting charged less so less tax for the collecters. Isn't this what folk wanted?

[Pixie]

That's not even a discussion point. Max open road speed limit is 100km/hr.

What do you have the 750 for?
I'd like to follow you sometime,just to see if you are a real "never break the law" type,or just a bullshitter.

[emaN]

jim, it's the attitude that comes across, more than what you said/wrote.
you're right, i've read many of your posts over the last couple yrs, but i hadn't read anything of yours portraying this particular attitude, is all. i guess that's why i replied so quick. sorry if i seemed to 'attack' you dude.

the issue, i believe, is this govt's attitude, which (obviously) influences their actions.

per se, if you were to isolate these new 'approaches' from anything else Labour has done, I'd maybe even say 'good on them'.
however, with Labour's 'school report' growing ever grimmer, and especially taking into account their complete & utter disregard of our wishes in other (recent) spheres, i suggset that most of these approaches stem from an arrogant attitude which is too weak to deal with the main issues.

sure National will have it's own worms.
gotta be better than the festering bucket of apples we've got now though.

[emaN]

the law is meant to give us guidelines, is it not?
humans do occasionally make genuine mistakes, do they not?
I, along with thousands of others, am one of those who made a genuine mistake & have to lump it for 24mths.

lump? you bet. i've got the hump.

coppers have their arms so far twisted behind their own backs, they are left with very few discretionary powers.
this is what pisses me off.

there is the 'letter' of the law, and the 'spirit' of the law.
they're often forced to apply the 'letter' of the law, even when the 'punishment' is un-necessarily heavy-handed.

[Swoop]

It's quite entertaining with all of the front windscreen "stickies".
The proliferation of electronic in-car navigation systems (can't people read a map anymore?) that are appearing attached to the windscreen, MUST make it much more difficult for enforcement people to decide "was that a radar detector?".
Then we get into the seperate category of asian "all the wobbly thingys ALL over the dashboard". It would be very easy to camoflage a detector in the fluffy tissue-box covers!

[blue eyed savage]

its just not good that a young guy WILL speed then WHEN he gets court he knows if he stops hes going to lose his car/bike and/or licence.

what do u think hes going to do.
RUN

[98tls]

Lets not make the laws to harsh eh otherwise there will be no idiots doing 140km on main roads to tuck in behind.Went up to Timaru today in the ute and some dipshit in a 4wd passed me on the main rd doing said speed,was just a waiting game really and sure enough up the road a bit he was pinged.Cops must just laugh at how easy it is.

[sAsLEX]

It's quite entertaining with all of the front windscreen "stickies".
The proliferation of electronic in-car navigation systems (can't people read a map anymore?) that are appearing attached to the windscreen, MUST make it much more difficult for enforcement people to decide "was that a radar detector?".
Then we get into the seperate category of asian "all the wobbly thingys ALL over the dashboard". It would be very easy to camoflage a detector in the fluffy tissue-box covers!

And back to my threads original question.

If you fluffy tissue box does contain a radar detector wont they need a warrant to search it?

And if geeks like jrandom et al make one and hide it in various places on the bike how are the going to know what is what? I mean a cheap alarm box looks like an alarm smells like an alarm but........

[Disco Dan]

Great... so with radar detectors being banned they will drop in price very very soon....... will be able to get myself one then!

[Swoop]

If you fluffy tissue box does contain a radar detector wont they need a warrant to search it?

The'll just use the "I thought it might contain drugs" story and search under that excuse.

[Ixion]

I pulled my detector apart for various irrelevant reasons. There is not much in there. I reckon one could tuck the pcb in almost anywhere, assuming the one didn't care about seeing the readout (not really an issue on bikes). But I'm not sure about the antenna thing. can it be remotely mounted and just connected with a long wire ? Does anyone know?

Splitting the PCB out, and putting it remotely from the antenna, and ditching the case, would make it very hard for anyone but an expert to find . Could be done if a cop REALLY wanted to, but it's not really likely

Then the issue would be the cops detector detector picking it up. The detector's detector detector detector would pick up the detector detector and alert you, and you would have to quickly switch it off with a not obvious switch (not too much of a problem on a bike I think). And I don't think they can actually search the bike. I'm sure they can't search you, so you could just have the detector in a pocket. Or even buil it into your helmet maybe?

I wonder how many false alarms the detector detecors set off? I suspect quite a few, so if a cop did ping a detector and went looking , without apparently finding anything would he just assume "false alarm".

EDIT. May be a bit simpler. The doccy for my Bel says it is "invisible" to VG2 detector detectoring. So really it's just a matter of not having it in sight. Would radar penetrate a helmet shell. One could mount the antenna in the helmet, pcb in a pocket, sorted.