Penalised for trying to help

[Katman]

Ahhh, reading this thread makes me feel that all the flack I've copped over the last few months has all been worthwhile. I'm feeling all warm and runny inside at the moment.

[xwhatsit]

So, all ye advice-givers, I'd like some. On right-handers I do find myself drifting inexorably towards the centre-line, and although I've rarely crossed it, I'm sure there's been situations where my head and body have been in the oncoming lane. Often it means I have to change lines mid-corner to get back where I should be.

How to avoid this? Where should I be looking? Or is it a simple matter of delaying the apex as long as possible?

[Ixion]

Do you trail brake? Usually works well with bikes like yours. And full gauntlet as soon as you reach apex , maybe even a bit before if the gear ratios are right

[Ghost_Bullet]

Keep on keepin on. advice no matter how it is put is way better than none. I would much rather be hearing some hints, tips, or a down right telling off, rather that continueing to hear of bikers endin up 6ft under, or even slightly mamed esp those where the incident was at thier fault.

It would be much better that we do our training "In House" as it were, rather than say legislation being put in place to practically drive us off the roads all together, to save ongoing cost for cleaning up mess's all over the country side. Just because people are to pig headed to listen and atempt to adhere to some simple riding principles.

Unfortuantly we live in a real world, we cannot simulate it, get it right, then go out and do it for real in most cases. It is do it make mistakes and hope ya come out at the other end a better person with better skills than before.

I am far from perfect, and appreciate any comments passed regarding my practices.

Thanks... and merry xmas... is that Santa I hear????

[scumdog]

Ah shuddup a soppy ranting ginga cunt!

Just keep on telling it like it is.
Those that REALLY want to improve will take notice.

Those with egos bigger than their ability wil keep slagging you off (who cares?) and falling off.

Ya mean well, ya know a lot and ya need to transfer that info - even if it is in 'dangerese'!!

My thoughts on the evolution of cutting corners (judging by some coroner reports):
Ya cut a corner - nobody coming towards you, sweet.
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike coming towrds ya (but a safe distance away).
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike fairly close - but still tons of time.
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike coming towards ya and shee-it, a bit close but hey, got there.
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike coming towards ya and it's ferkin' close but ooo-ee ya scrape in on time
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike coming towards ya and man-o-man is it CLOSE but hell, ya just squeak in with a bit of rapid counter steering and a bucket of luck
Ya cut a corner and there's a car/bike coming towards and ya reackn if ya.. SPLAT!!!
RIP
It might take a month - or might take ten years but if ya start habitually cutting corners there's a good to average chance you'll follow the above evolution to its conclusion.

[xwhatsit]

Do you trail brake? Usually works well with bikes like yours. And full gauntlet as soon as you reach apex , maybe even a bit before if the gear ratios are right

I do trail brake, overmuch I think. I'll try giving it more beans earlier in the corner, which is something I always have a mental block about, despite the suspension settling down when I do so. Not like I have to worry about high-siding.

Cheers.

[scumdog]

ooo, congrats rashika and dangerous!! gonna be a baby dangerashika!!

Trust a ginga to get a flash sheila knocked-up.

As said on the movies: "dorks get all the best snatch"


(heheheheh!)

[cave weta]

Yep keep offering the advice, your words of wisdom hopefully will be used before, another bites the dust full time !! Went to my friends funeral on Wednesday, lost control went over the centre line, Karangahake gorge (Waihi) don't want to have to go to any more, simple really back up on the pace, be like a hawke with your eyes, live to enjoy your bike and the excitement it gives, ride forever not part time.....

Hey- I havent been out to the Gorge for a look but the word around Waihi is that the SCU's painted marks indicate the impact on the bikes side of the white line!? and further words say that the local dude in the car has always had a name for being one to 'Put the shits up' people by swerving at them! It did happen on a right hand corner, - (for the biker)
And my question is: what are the chances of a bike at highway speed getting thrown inwards when centifugal force and inertia are both forcing the bike outward?


OOPS!-

[scumdog]

When someone explains to me how on a clear & visible road hell it's safer to take the line on the left than the one on the right then I'll stop cutting over the centre line.

And if catch you I'll issue you with a 35 demerit ticket every time too.

Young guys here read your shit - and may well die following your shit.

[Colapop]

You know, I offer opinion every day. Whether people take what I say as advice is up to them. I may be right, I may be wrong. I choose to ride with people or not - the choice is mine. Just like an opinion - take it as advice or not, it's up to you.

You can please some of the people some of the time.

[The Stranger:Me]

Where should I be looking?

Here

[Maha]

Here

Dude!!!...that plane is about to land on your students!....

[The Stranger:Me]

Dude!!!...that plane is about to land on your students!....

Hazard avoidance maha.
When you've completed one of our courses you're ready for fooken anything.
You never know when you are going to have to avoid a plane.

[Colapop]

Da plane Da plane!

[mstriumph]

CONGRATULATIONS RASHIKA!!!!!



oh - and you, too, Dangerous