MMMMM what next !!

[huck farley]

[QUOTE=Aitch;1362618]Surely the issue here is not whether or not we speed, it's that the government is pushing through its usual social engineering legislation as quietly as it can and as quickly as it can in the knowledge that it will be out of power at the next election, and also in the knowledge that the National government will not have the time nor the the inclination to reverse all of it.
The cynical way in which this socialist mob has foisted its agenda on us is shameful.
A classic example of a third term government![/QUOTE


HOW VERY TRUE, YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

[huck farley]

Impossible. The House rose on the 18th December, the date of the last order paper. The next sitting is not until 12th Februaruy. Nice long holidays these representicritters take.

And the banning of detectors could not be done as a Rule (which only requires Ministerial approval).

What has happened is that cabinet (*NOT* Parliament) have agreed on what changes they want. They still have to convince parliament (not, admittedly, that that is likely to be difficult given the drongos we have there).

But is is most certainly NOT law at present.

Let me remind you that I was only told this by a mate who had come around for a beer. I don't know the politics of it. All I know is that someone on this thread who knows what he;s talking about has told us it is true. The cops are going to phase out Radar detectors. over a three year period.

They won't find mine cause I have it in my pocket. I don't think the law has the enfocement to do a body search or have they??????????

Anyway that's all I know what I posted when I started this thread was only hear say if you would like to go back to the start of the thread and have anther read up.
Anyway Cobber have a happy and safe new year.
Cheers Huckleberry Farley

[HRT]

You just Muse on this then mate. I had a head on with a stock truck and trailer back in July 95 I was driving my works van to Matamata to do a job. When this Fukin great Juggernaut came around the bend on my side of the road. There was no time to do anything instinctively I just dived across the the passenger side of the van It all happened in a Flash.

I lost a leg and the use of one arm as a result. I got taken to the Waikato hospital and was in ITU for ten days. To cut a long story very short. The driver of the Truck had gone to sleep at the wheel. I was told he had done
17 hours straight.

The cop that interviewed me said by not wearing a seat belt in this instance saved your life. If I had have been wearing one I would have been crushed and killed. I was in Hospital for four and a half months.

Come on, thats just luck. Come around the corner and it was a car that you hit on the other side of your vehicle then you'd be fucked.

Good to hear you got away from that, though the evidence from crashes would say that you're much more likely to walk away from a crash if you've had a seatbelt on.

You don't purposely not wear your seatbelt now because of that crash do you?

[The Pastor]

the only reason i wear a seatbelt is because i dont want a fine.

[Meanie]

Well i am going to buy a new one before they stop selling them

[Ixion]

A seatbelt ?

[mxracer_nz]

MDU said it right when he said speed doesnt kill, sudden stops do.

The BIG LIE being told to you by politicians is that you will be safer because ipso facto anyone exceeding an arbitrarily dictated velocity is worse than a murderer or child molester. If speed kills, how come Helen didnt die when she was being convoyed from Waimate to Christchurch at warp 9?

What I object to is that New Zealand drivers generally are fucking dangerous at ANY speed, let alone 100kph.

I am going to purchase a radar detector, and a jammer, if I get my shit together enough to do so before they become unlawful.

Fuck Helen, and fuck Harry Dickshovin.

BOYAAA!! thats it right there

[Banesto John]

You just Muse on this then mate. I had a head on with a stock truck and trailer back in July 95 I was driving my works van to Matamata to do a job. When this Fukin great Juggernaut came around the bend on my side of the road. There was no time to do anything instinctively I just dived across the the passenger side of the van It all happened in a Flash.

I lost a leg and the use of one arm as a result. I got taken to the Waikato hospital and was in ITU for ten days. To cut a long story very short. The driver of the Truck had gone to sleep at the wheel. I was told he had done
17 hours straight.

The cop that interviewed me said by not wearing a seat belt in this instance saved your life. If I had have been wearing one I would have been crushed and killed. I was in Hospital for four and a half months.

I regret what happened to you, but to follow your logic, nobody in NZ should wear a seatbelt just in case it might hurt them or kill them. Admittedly that would probably double the road toll, but at least those who would have been killed by wearing a seatbelt will live. Trouble is, they are a very, very small minority. Yes, let's kill lots so a few can live. Yeah right.

Radar detectors make very little difference to the big picture, although they do make a difference to each individual using one. Look at the figures, I reckon probably 5% of motorists use them, that means 95% are not going to be affected by the rule change when it happens. Trouble is, it's a noisy 5%, the rest of us couldn't give a toss.

[RnB Fan]

Don't have one. Don't need one (I ride like your grandmothers grandmother anyway). If you don't want a ticket then slow down!

[STUPY]

It amuses me when people drag the old revenue collecting argument out.

The person most able to avoid donating revenue to the Govt coffers is the person speeding, not wearing the seatbelt etc. If they don't wanna donate, don't break the law.

The other issue is that when the detector ban kicks in, most fines are being reduced to a far smaller amount, but demerit points are going up. For example, seatbelt tickets, currently costing $150 and nil demerits, will be changing to $50 and 25 demerits.

What say those about revenue collecting ? Clearly the revenue is going down, so maybe the real motive behind enforcement is road safety, especially from the village idiots too lazy to wear a very basic thing like a seatbelt.

Muse on this : what sort of fool buys a $150 000 BMW car packed with every safety device known to man, then chooses to leave his seatbelt off, negating all the safety things he just paid a fortune for?

Must get off my soap box.

sure the dollar value is going down with radar detectors gone there will be more caught, so an increase of lower dollar value fines! more demerit points, meaning there will and i quote " more drivers with no licences" meaning more money the goverment gets when everybody has to get thier work licence. how much is a work licence new days??? $1000??? so ya i think you must be right the aren't revenue gathering at all!!!!!!

but what do i know i'm just one voice!!!

[The Pastor]

video killed the radio star.

Labour killed nz.

[STUPY]

Radar detectors make very little difference to the big picture, although they do make a difference to each individual using one. Look at the figures, I reckon probably 5% of motorists use them, that means 95% are not going to be affected by the rule change when it happens. Trouble is, it's a noisy 5%, the rest of us couldn't give a toss.

what!!!!! 5% where the hell did you get that figure from it's estimated at around 18% have them +/- 2%

[Gubb]

Source?

10 char

[huck farley]

but to follow your logic, nobody in NZ should wear a seatbelt just in case it might hurt them or kill them. :

I wear a seat belt all the time, I did forget to put it on that day. Although I didn't use to care to much about wearing one in work truck. However I was merely stating that in my instance by not waring a belt saved my life. And it was a truck and trailer loaded with stock.

[oldrider]

None of this has anything to do with revenue collection as such, it's primary purpose is about "CONTROLL"!!!

Socialist governments are about removal of individual freedom and inflicting mass control.

Everybody singing from the same collective song sheet, written by the government, for the government.

All standards set by the lowest common denominator IE: collective mediocrity!

Are they winning? Hell yes! (IMHO) John.