Biker Down threads!

[Katman]

A persons life cycle ending regardless of circumstances deserves thought & acknowledgment be that by public forum or by silence.

What if that person was a fucking scumbag?

[fire eyes]

hmm good question, it's an acknowledgment of a persons life, not thier behavior or choices.

[Katman]

hmm good question, it's an acknowledgment of a persons life, not thier behavior or choices.

So you're happy to acknowledge a scumbag in a positive fashion?

[fire eyes]

So you're happy to acknowledge a scumbag in a positive fashion?

I am happy to acknowledge that the person was born and existed in the world we all have to co-exist in.

I am happy to acknowledge that they have family and possibly friends who may love them regardless of wheather they have done wrong and regardless of one persons opinion of them.

I am happy to acknowledge that the death process is a natural progression of life and applies to all of us.

Does this help you understand a little?

[MadDuck]

How about, those that do will, those that don't won't, and never the twain shall meet.

Agreed. Sometimes its best to agree to disagree.

Personally if I pass riding a motorcycle then so be it. But if people want to post about my death before friends have been notified then that would be pretty sucky but I am dead and it wont mean shit to me.

As I have only one family member alive I am pretty sure he would look at posts that simply :

..............

as pretty insulting.

[Ixion]

So you're happy to acknowledge a scumbag in a positive fashion?

Such customary condolences are intended for the living not the dead. The scumbag is now before a judge far wiser than I. I will leave judgement to Him.Judge not, least ye be judged.

But here, on earth, there are usually still folk that will mourn, even for a scumbag. My acknowledgment is for their grief. Would you march up to a grieving mother at her son's funeral and say "He was a scumbag, I'm glad he's dead " ?

[Katman]

Would you march up to a grieving mother at her son's funeral and say "He was a scumbag, I'm glad he's dead " ?

Probably not - I wouldn't attend his funeral.

[Ixion]

Presisely so. And, in like manner, on here you would not post in the thread , or even open it. But others will attend the funeral and may wish to offer formulary condolences. Why should they not?

Extending my analogy, you would not attend the funeral of the scumbag. But would you then forcibly restrain the scumbag's mother from attending his funeral. "No, he was a scumbag, I will not attend his funeral, and I shall prevent you from doing so either". I am sure you would not. But is that not what you are arguing for here? To prevent those for whom the extending of a message of sympathy, no matter how ill deserved , may be therapeutic or c onsoling, form doing so ?

[Katman]

I've only ever attended one funeral in my 44 years of life - my Dad's. (A couple I missed due to being overseas).

I intend to come back and haunt anyone who attends my funeral who isn't genuinely aggrieved by my passing.

[Ixion]

Not the point
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You said that your response to a scumbag's death would be that you would not attend his funeral - not that you would attack those who did attend

Here, the comparable behaviour would be to ignore any condolence thread. But you extend that to condemning their existence and criticising those who 'attend' them.

Why do you not extend to cyberspace memorials the same courtesy that you extend to meat space one? That of ignoring them if you cannot approve of them ? And allowing those who find a purpose in them to 'attend' if they wish? You do not argue (I hope0 that because you do not consider scumbag worthy of your attendence at his funeral, he should not be allowed a funeral. So why may he not , likewise, be allowed a condolence thread. Which you may ignore.

[Hiflyer]

oh god now theres 3 threads!!! when will the horror end? hahahaha

[Katman]

when will the horror end?

Good question.

(Don't quite see the humour in it though).

[Hiflyer]

Good question.

(Don't quite see the humour in it though).

no i mean these dumb threads about banning Biker down hreads, its worse than the waving threads really. IMO

[MadDuck]

no i mean these dumb threads about banning Biker down hreads, its worse than the waving threads really. IMO

If I had a hread I may agree....but never ever ever take away my entertainent of waving threads. I would be lost without them

[Hiflyer]

yea they are entertaining, this is just sad, someone dies so people get angry about people feeling sorry for the family.

if someone says that the send their condolances or whatever, then thats fine cos 90% of those posts are ral. not just waffle.

just cos someone feels sorry for the family doesnt mean sorry as in OMG im so mortified that i cant possibly function at all for the next 2 years, just that they do genuinly feel sorrow for their loss cos maybe theyve experienced loss in their lives, one way or another, be it from bikes or not.

just cos someone says sorry doesnt mean theyre gunna say it while ruining their keyboard with tears. . . .


oh and re-reading this, it kinda seems like its aimed at you MD but its not

its for eeeeeveryone (that is getting real agry over nothing)